And your response is even better... like salt in a wound.

-JJR

"John Reimer" <terminal.node@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eh3eqh$qto$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> And your response is even better... like salt in a wound.

It's also entirely true.

J Duncan wrote:
> Sean Kelly wrote:
>> Bill Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>> The other option is to have something net-connected like the python easy_install stuff or the cygwin installer, or I suppose things like fink (though I've never used it), and apt-get.   Of those I think the Cygwin model makes most sense.  You get a front-end configurator to run that lets you pick which modules you want in addition to the core.  Of course that's a lot more work / infrastructure to set up.
>>
>> Personally, I would love for D libraries to be distributed this way. Ruby Gems does this too, and implementation issues aside, the basic concept is just fantastic.
>>
>>
>> Sean
> 
> I have been discussing this idea pretty much since I came to D. Gregor is working on the DSSS project and he had discussed putting in some sort of 'netinstall' option.
> 
> At any rate this is something we eventually have to do, without a doubt!

I think it'd be cool, too.

Great, Jarrett.  You're the man: that's so much better than partly true.  And now, you've probably got a hundred people analyzing your every word to see how mature you are from now on.

You've achieved very little in stating that other than perhaps spreading derision and worsening irritability.  Keep it up.

-JJR

Walter Bright wrote:
> J Duncan wrote:
>> Sean Kelly wrote:
>>> Bill Baxter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The other option is to have something net-connected like the python easy_install stuff or the cygwin installer, or I suppose things like fink (though I've never used it), and apt-get.   Of those I think the Cygwin model makes most sense.  You get a front-end configurator to run that lets you pick which modules you want in addition to the core.  Of course that's a lot more work / infrastructure to set up.
>>>
>>> Personally, I would love for D libraries to be distributed this way. Ruby Gems does this too, and implementation issues aside, the basic concept is just fantastic.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sean
>>
>> I have been discussing this idea pretty much since I came to D. Gregor is working on the DSSS project and he had discussed putting in some sort of 'netinstall' option.
>>
>> At any rate this is something we eventually have to do, without a doubt!
> 
> I think it'd be cool, too.

Oh no!  You may have just killed it!  ;-)

--bb

LOL! Good one, Bill.

Not likely, though.  I think Gregor has a great idea, and I hope he carries it to fruition. :)

-JJR

Mike Parker wrote:
> Sean Kelly wrote:
>> Mike Parker wrote:
>>> Walter Bright wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've thought about cash prizes and contests. I just had the nagging feeling that the result would be a circus rather than serious development.
>>>
>>> What about bounties? 

Getting some Google summer-of-coders might be good too.
Where there any proposals for D this last time around?

--bb

"John Reimer" <terminal.node@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eh3jpe$109v$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Great, Jarrett.  You're the man: that's so much better than partly true.  And now, you've probably got a hundred people analyzing your every word to see how mature you are from now on.
>
> You've achieved very little in stating that other than perhaps spreading derision and worsening irritability.  Keep it up.

I've built up a great respect for Derek over the past couple of years.  And to see him just snap like that.. It irks me.  Derek has always been (in my view) a voice of reason, and for him to suddenly leave D about .. what?  A misinterpretation of Georg's comment?  A feeling that he has "no effect" on D?  Guess what -- very few people really do!  And like Walter already said, Derek's on the acknowledgements page, if he's looking for some kind of validation that he's actually contributed something!  As if managing one of the most popular D tools wasn't enough!

I'm just really disappointed with how Derek's reacted to the situation. That's all.

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:36:34 -0700, Jarrett Billingsley <kb3ctd2@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "John Reimer" <terminal.node@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eh3jpe$109v$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> Great, Jarrett.  You're the man: that's so much better than partly
>> true.  And now, you've probably got a hundred people analyzing your
>> every word to see how mature you are from now on.
>>
>> You've achieved very little in stating that other than perhaps
>> spreading derision and worsening irritability.  Keep it up.
>
> I've built up a great respect for Derek over the past couple of years.  And
> to see him just snap like that.. It irks me.  Derek has always been (in my
> view) a voice of reason, and for him to suddenly leave D about .. what?  A
> misinterpretation of Georg's comment?  A feeling that he has "no effect" on
> D?  Guess what -- very few people really do!  And like Walter already said,
> Derek's on the acknowledgements page, if he's looking for some kind of
> validation that he's actually contributed something!  As if managing one of
> the most popular D tools wasn't enough!
>
> I'm just really disappointed with how Derek's reacted to the situation.
> That's all.
>
>


That was much more eloquently expressed. That shows your real feelings on the matter and leaves little to the imagination.

Thank you for posting that; I mostly agree with your take of the situation.

Somehow, I still get what irks Derek, though not in the exact same way, perhaps.

-JJR

Bill Baxter wrote:

> Mike Parker wrote:
>> Sean Kelly wrote:
>>> Mike Parker wrote:
>>>> Walter Bright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've thought about cash prizes and contests. I just had the nagging feeling that the result would be a circus rather than serious development.
>>>>
>>>> What about bounties?
> 
> Getting some Google summer-of-coders might be good too. Where there any proposals for D this last time around?
> 
> --bb

afaik, only formally organized projects may apply, although it is somewhat unclear to me what constitutes formal in this respect.

-- 
Lars Ivar Igesund
blog at http://larsivi.net
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