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Meta question - what about moving the D - Learn Forum to a seperate StackExchange platform?
Oct 18, 2019
jmh530
Oct 18, 2019
Seb
Oct 18, 2019
Paolo Invernizzi
Oct 18, 2019
Andrea Fontana
Oct 18, 2019
bachmeier
Oct 18, 2019
bachmeier
Oct 18, 2019
bachmeier
Oct 18, 2019
Ron Tarrant
Oct 18, 2019
Adam D. Ruppe
October 18, 2019
If I search for what ever, not related to D, I very often end with a solution
found on one of the StackExchange forums like StackOverflow or AskUbuntu etc.

The main advantage is, that all answers can be classified (up/down voted, moderated etc.)
This is much better than finding something in the D-Learn Forum where it is difficult to see,
if several answers are given are they still valid, especially if they are some years old.

I know that this was asked in the D survey and I think it should be on the table again.

If we unite for this idea, it should be possible to start an own "DExchange" sub platform.

Best regards mt.
October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 07:35:21 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
> [snip]

I think this is something that's been proposed before, but most people are happy with just asking a question here and usually people are pretty good about helping out with answers when possible.
October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 10:23:28 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
> On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 07:35:21 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
>> [snip]
>
> I think this is something that's been proposed before, but most people are happy with just asking a question here and usually people are pretty good about helping out with answers when possible.

Yes, it works as it is, but it is not the best solution to share know how.

And if I just think: Hey, your answer is good, in the mailinglist / forum / newsgroup setup it is impossible to easily vote for it and get a count of this votes.

I think it is possible to extended the web front end of the forum in this direction and automatically map an '+1' or '-1' comment (in a single line) to a counter which will be displayed beside the commented post. But this is reinventing the wheel...

I am just sad, that many very good questions and answers given in the forum are not so easy to find as they should.
October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 10:55:59 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
> On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 10:23:28 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
>> On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 07:35:21 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>
>> I think this is something that's been proposed before, but most people are happy with just asking a question here and usually people are pretty good about helping out with answers when possible.
>
> Yes, it works as it is, but it is not the best solution to share know how.
>
> And if I just think: Hey, your answer is good, in the mailinglist / forum / newsgroup setup it is impossible to easily vote for it and get a count of this votes.
>
> I think it is possible to extended the web front end of the forum in this direction and automatically map an '+1' or '-1' comment (in a single line) to a counter which will be displayed beside the commented post. But this is reinventing the wheel...
>
> I am just sad, that many very good questions and answers given in the forum are not so easy to find as they should.

In the state of the D survey, there were more people in favor of StackOverflow than D.learn, but to be fair the majority voted for "I don't care"

https://rawgit.com/wilzbach/state-of-d/master/report.html

October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 10:55:59 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
> Yes, it works as it is, but it is not the best solution to share know how.

I agree. I think D.learn should be moved to stackoverflow and D.general should stay here.
October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 11:45:33 UTC, Seb wrote:
> On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 10:55:59 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
>> [...]
>
> In the state of the D survey, there were more people in favor of StackOverflow than D.learn, but to be fair the majority voted for "I don't care"
>
> https://rawgit.com/wilzbach/state-of-d/master/report.html

Maybe it's possible to simply add an up/down vote functionality to the forum only, just keeping the compatibility with the newsgroup ...

It's a win/win solution!
October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 07:35:21 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
> If I search for what ever, not related to D, I very often end with a solution
> found on one of the StackExchange forums like StackOverflow or AskUbuntu etc.
>
> The main advantage is, that all answers can be classified (up/down voted, moderated etc.)
> This is much better than finding something in the D-Learn Forum where it is difficult to see,
> if several answers are given are they still valid, especially if they are some years old.
>
> I know that this was asked in the D survey and I think it should be on the table again.
>
> If we unite for this idea, it should be possible to start an own "DExchange" sub platform.
>
> Best regards mt.

You can already ask questions on SO. What you are proposing is to close this forum, require registration to ask a question, and let JavaScript developers close questions and treat new users rudely. That doesn't seem like a good idea. The fact that most questions get asked here rather than on SO now suggests that there isn't much demand for SO.
October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 07:35:21 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
> If I search for what ever, not related to D, I very often end with a solution
> found on one of the StackExchange forums like StackOverflow or AskUbuntu etc.
>
> The main advantage is, that all answers can be classified (up/down voted, moderated etc.)
> This is much better than finding something in the D-Learn Forum where it is difficult to see,
> if several answers are given are they still valid, especially if they are some years old.
>
> I know that this was asked in the D survey and I think it should be on the table again.
>
> If we unite for this idea, it should be possible to start an own "DExchange" sub platform.
>
> Best regards mt.

And on the issue of knowing which answers are still valid, that hasn't been the case for a long time on SO. I wasted a lot of time yesterday with not one but two accepted answers on regular expressions that were wrong (both did solve the specific problem, but neither did what was claimed).
October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 12:51:35 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 07:35:21 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
>> If I search for what ever, not related to D, I very often end with a solution
>> found on one of the StackExchange forums like StackOverflow or AskUbuntu etc.
>>
>> The main advantage is, that all answers can be classified (up/down voted, moderated etc.)
>> This is much better than finding something in the D-Learn Forum where it is difficult to see,
>> if several answers are given are they still valid, especially if they are some years old.
>>
>> I know that this was asked in the D survey and I think it should be on the table again.
>>
>> If we unite for this idea, it should be possible to start an own "DExchange" sub platform.
>>
>> Best regards mt.
>
> You can already ask questions on SO. What you are proposing is to close this forum, require registration to ask a question, and let JavaScript developers close questions and treat new users rudely. That doesn't seem like a good idea. The fact that most questions get asked here rather than on SO now suggests that there isn't much demand for SO.

I am not for moving just to StackOverflow, but to make an own "DExchange" / "AskD" or what ever named learn platform with and inside the StackExchange [1] technology. This should keep D users together and would avoid mixing with other languages. But I am not sure if this is really achievable for us.

[1] https://stackexchange.com/sites#



October 18, 2019
On Friday, 18 October 2019 at 07:35:21 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote:
> I very often end with a solution found on one of the StackExchange forums like > StackOverflow or AskUbuntu etc.

I have found that StackExchange does often have answers, but I can't say I like asking questions on there, especially if the question is almost-the-same-but-not-the-same as a question asked earlier. In cases like this, I've been told that the previous answer applies to my question, even when it doesn't.

In one instance, a moderator closed my question without reading the details in order to find out that, no, it's not the same question at all... and then refuse to reopen the question when I point this out.

So, although I'll continue to use StackExchange as an historical resource, I would rather not depend on it for getting answers to new questions.

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