I really don't like this style of page. I much prefer the look of the redesign that was proposed a while back and is floating around somewhere (I think there's a pull request lying around somewhere to get something very close to that). If I'm on a PC then I want to be able to see all the navigation options at a glance, but have to scroll forever.

On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 19:51:57 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 1/21/2015 6:46 AM, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote:
>> Just for fun and proof-of-concept I went ahead and forked the dlang.org site. I
>> basically took the `do-what-everybody-else-is-doing` approach:
>
> Thank you very much for doing this! I very much appreciate the hard work you put into it.
>
> For comparison, here are some other language front doors:

I always thought that D deserved something like this: http://learnyouahaskell.com/

Matheus.

On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 14:46:22 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote:
> Just for fun and proof-of-concept I went ahead and forked the dlang.org site. I basically took the `do-what-everybody-else-is-doing` approach:
>
> http://dlang.skoppe.eu
>
> It is still a wip, but the landing page and the language reference (see Docs menu-item) is working.
> [snip]

Looks nice. The logo feels out of place. Maybe try one of these more minimalist variations:

https://drive.google.com/a/gnuk.net/folderview?id=0Bx3n3LnLsNBzNngyZ055eDhTbGs&usp=sharing#

Perhaps d-flat-minimal.svg in white?

On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 18:01:14 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 17:34:46 UTC, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 05:27:09PM +0000, anonymous via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 14:46:22 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote:
>>> >Just for fun and proof-of-concept I went ahead and forked the dlang.org
>>> >site. I basically took the `do-what-everybody-else-is-doing` approach:
>>> >
>>> >http://dlang.skoppe.eu
>>> 
>>> I must have been taking crazy pills, because everyone else seems to
>>> love it, but I don't like the homepage. I
>>> have
>>> to
>>> scroll
>>> down
>>> way
>>> too
>>> much
>>> to
>>> actually
>>> see
>>> some
>>> content.
>>> Also, I can't make sense of the order of things.
>>> 
>>> I know this is what-everybody-else-is-doing, and I don't like on other
>>> sites either.
>> [...]
>>
>> +1. I didn't like it either. But then again, the majority of people
>> rarely agree with me, so I didn't say anything. But obviously I'm not
>> alone in disliking this spaced-out layout.
>
> I don't like the front page either, but the doc view isn't so bad.
>
You're not alone gents. I like some parts and content pages aren't too bad, but the homepage is completely impractical. It feels like I'm emulating a giant phone. The problem with "mobile first" design is the desktop often gets left behind. This may not be a problem for sites that are primarily viewed on phones, but I don't think that will be the case for dlang any time soon.

On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 19:51:57 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:

> The Dart one is probably most similar to this proposal. But there definitely is a trend among these sites - a menu across the top, lots of white space, lots of scrolling. I can't say I'm a fan, but it's undeniable what people consider modern. (I like the older style, as it is denser and easier to navigate.)

You forgot Nim:
http://nim-lang.org

And I personally like Nim's website best.

I have to agree with Walter, and prefer the denser design.

This proposal is attractive, though, but the new website trends are too sparse.  I realize this is the modern trend, but that trend seems to treat eveything like a 5" smartphone.

Mike

On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 21:13:09 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 14:46:22 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote:
>> Just for fun and proof-of-concept I went ahead and forked the dlang.org site. I basically took the `do-what-everybody-else-is-doing` approach:
>>
>> http://dlang.skoppe.eu
>>
>> It is still a wip, but the landing page and the language reference (see Docs menu-item) is working.
>> [snip]
>
> Looks nice. The logo feels out of place. Maybe try one of these more minimalist variations:
>
> https://drive.google.com/a/gnuk.net/folderview?id=0Bx3n3LnLsNBzNngyZ055eDhTbGs&usp=sharing#
>
> Perhaps d-flat-minimal.svg in white?

Here's a mock-up with a wide version of the logo I've been toying around with:

http://i.imgur.com/nesKYdQ.png

SVG logo: https://mediacru.sh/8eaa7f9c3421

On 22/01/2015 3:46 a.m., Sebastiaan Koppe wrote:
> Just for fun and proof-of-concept I went ahead and forked the dlang.org
> site. I basically took the `do-what-everybody-else-is-doing` approach:
>
> http://dlang.skoppe.eu
>
> It is still a wip, but the landing page and the language reference (see
> Docs menu-item) is working.
>
> Doing the ddoc was a maze of macro's at first. But spending a couple of
> hours untangling the mess, I finally found the ones I needed to change.
> After that things went pretty smooth. So ddoc ain't that bad. It is just
> that I didn't have syntax highlighting - nor goto-definition - and I
> hate that.
>
> Still, it is cool in a way that I can just change some macro's, tweak
> the index.dd, the doc.ddoc and don't have to worry about all the other
> pages.
>
> BTW, the build process on windows was way easier than linux. In fact, I
> could not get the makefile to run on linux at all. Looking into
> posix.mak, I see a blur of path's, all misconfigured, and I bet I am
> supposed to set those manually. I don't get it, doesn't everything has
> its own place? Isn't dmd always installed in /usr/bin, /usr/include/dmd
> and that stuff? I suppose not everyone is using the same distro. Or they
> are, except me :)

I do like this direction.
Its giving me ideas.

On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 20:41:09 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 1/21/15 11:55 AM, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> This giant red band is present on
>> every page, effectively reducing the height of the browser window by 20%
>> for no good reason.
>
> I'm also a fan of vertical navigation menus because today's screens have a wide aspect ratio making vertical real estate precious and horizontal real estate cheap. -- Andrei

Onyl true if you have only one window open. I'm using a tiling WM and usually have to windows side by side. Suddenly it's the opposite.

On 1/21/2015 3:25 PM, Mike wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 January 2015 at 19:51:57 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
>
>> The Dart one is probably most similar to this proposal. But there definitely
>> is a trend among these sites - a menu across the top, lots of white space,
>> lots of scrolling. I can't say I'm a fan, but it's undeniable what people
>> consider modern. (I like the older style, as it is denser and easier to
>> navigate.)
>
> You forgot Nim:
> http://nim-lang.org
>
> And I personally like Nim's website best.

The slideshow is interesting, though I don't think code should be in them, as it goes to the next slide too quickly.


> I have to agree with Walter, and prefer the denser design.
>
> This proposal is attractive, though, but the new website trends are too sparse.
> I realize this is the modern trend, but that trend seems to treat eveything like
> a 5" smartphone.

I don't think that's surprising, but a big desktop display and a smartphone are different enough they need a different mindset. I'm not going to start editing code on a smartphone in the foreseeable future. I need a BFG 9000 display.

On 22/01/2015 1:11 p.m., Walter Bright wrote:
snip
> I don't think that's surprising, but a big desktop display and a
> smartphone are different enough they need a different mindset. I'm not
> going to start editing code on a smartphone in the foreseeable future. I
> need a BFG 9000 display.

If you only need one monitor, you're doing it wrong. Size doesn't matter.