On the D Blog -- Teaching D from Scratch: Is it a viable first language?

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Mike Parker

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Re: On the D Blog -- Teaching D from Scratch: Is it a viable first language?

Posted by Harrison Ford (hatf0)
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Harrison Ford (hatf0)

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On Thursday, 23 December 2021 at 12:44:04 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:

Steven Schveighoffer has been using D to teach a group of children to program. He wrote about his experience for the D blog. Is D a viable first language? See what Steve has to say about it :-)

The blog:
https://dlang.org/blog/2021/12/23/teaching-d-from-scratch-is-it-a-viable-first-language/

Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/rmuufa/teaching_d_from_scratch_is_it_a_viable_first/

This is super cool. I absolutely agree with Steven that we have a lot to go (in terms of compiler diagnostics, and really, general user experience), but it’s always great to hear about the wisdom of D being spread around.

I’ve mentioned it on the discord, but I’d perhaps be open to chipping in some for these improved diagnostics / UX improvements (number one on my wishlist is improved code completion engine using the DMD front-end!). I really think those are the two biggest things that are holding adoption back now, and we still have a lot of work in that regard. This is actually where I think Rust has a leg up on us — the language might not be that great, but you really can’t beat those compiler diagnostics.

On 12/23/21 5:11 PM, zjh wrote: > On Thursday, 23 December 2021 at 14:48:43 UTC, zjh wrote: > >> every time I visit `https://dlang.org`,it crashes. > > `wrong`,`https://dlang.org/blog`. > Does the site crash e.g. with an error code or does the browser crash? More information may help debug it. Ali

On Friday, 24 December 2021 at 04:58:20 UTC, zjh wrote: > On Friday, 24 December 2021 at 03:53:07 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: > >> Does the site crash e.g. with an error code or does the browser crash? More information may help debug it. >> >> Ali > > Many times, it is estimated that a `JS` is too large to load. > Not only did `the browser` crash, but even the `computer` crashed. > Mine is `32-bit, 2G` computer. What OS and Browser? I just tested on an old 32 bit machine with 2GB of RAM and both Chrome and Firefox worked normally. On Chrome I see there are some errors in some scripts though: Uncaught ReferenceError: jQuery is not defined navigation.js:55 Uncaught ReferenceError: jQuery is not defined select2.min.js:21 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'fn' of undefined mivhak.min.js:1 But even with these errors it load normally. Finally in both browsers I use only one extension: ublock origin, which blocked some trackers from twitter, facebook. And on Firefox it indeed almost freezes for a like 2 seconds, and occurs with the status bar showing: "Read c0.wp.com", after that the page finished loading. Matheus.

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