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Re: why ; ?
May 07, 2008
terranium
May 07, 2008
Nick Sabalausky
May 08, 2008
Robert Fraser
May 08, 2008
Ary Borenszweig
May 07, 2008
Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

> Python's semantically-meaningful indentation was intended to fix the problem of poorly-indented code by enforcing proper indentation in the language and compiler. But the problem is, it *doesn't* actually enforce it.

:-/ It's a hard task to keep code poorly formatted in MS Visual Studio, since a code formatter is built into editor.
May 07, 2008
"terranium" <spam@here.lot> wrote in message news:fvsdet$231s$1@digitalmars.com...
> Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
>
>> Python's semantically-meaningful indentation was intended to fix the
>> problem
>> of poorly-indented code by enforcing proper indentation in the language
>> and
>> compiler. But the problem is, it *doesn't* actually enforce it.
>
> :-/ It's a hard task to keep code poorly formatted in MS Visual Studio, since a code formatter is built into editor.

Exactly. That's the second reason I disagree with Python's rationale for their indentation mechanism: Automatic code formatters already solve the issue without introducing hidden bugs. And, they're relatively easy to implement anyway, or at least compared to a full-blown compiler (especially if you write it in D ;-) ).


May 08, 2008
Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> "terranium" <spam@here.lot> wrote in message news:fvsdet$231s$1@digitalmars.com...
>> Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
>>
>>> Python's semantically-meaningful indentation was intended to fix the problem
>>> of poorly-indented code by enforcing proper indentation in the language and
>>> compiler. But the problem is, it *doesn't* actually enforce it.
>> :-/ It's a hard task to keep code poorly formatted in MS Visual Studio, since a code formatter is built into editor.
> 
> Exactly. That's the second reason I disagree with Python's rationale for their indentation mechanism: Automatic code formatters already solve the issue without introducing hidden bugs. And, they're relatively easy to implement anyway, or at least compared to a full-blown compiler (especially if you write it in D ;-) ). 

There is a D code formatter... it's written in Java, though. It has ~300 options last time I touched it, but I think it'll get a couple more when I get around to updating it for D2.
May 08, 2008
Robert Fraser escribió:
> Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> "terranium" <spam@here.lot> wrote in message news:fvsdet$231s$1@digitalmars.com...
>>> Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
>>>
>>>> Python's semantically-meaningful indentation was intended to fix the problem
>>>> of poorly-indented code by enforcing proper indentation in the language and
>>>> compiler. But the problem is, it *doesn't* actually enforce it.
>>> :-/ It's a hard task to keep code poorly formatted in MS Visual Studio, since a code formatter is built into editor.
>>
>> Exactly. That's the second reason I disagree with Python's rationale for their indentation mechanism: Automatic code formatters already solve the issue without introducing hidden bugs. And, they're relatively easy to implement anyway, or at least compared to a full-blown compiler (especially if you write it in D ;-) ). 
> 
> There is a D code formatter... it's written in Java, though. It has ~300 options last time I touched it, but I think it'll get a couple more when I get around to updating it for D2.

My intentions are to update to 1.029, then support latest 2.x, then optimize while retaining correct semantic funcionality. :-)