superdan wrote:
> Brad Roberts Wrote:
> 
>> lurker wrote:
>>> Hi Brad.
>>>
>>> Brad Roberts Wrote:
>>>> I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight with the rest to follow as I can.
>>> Did you had time to post them? I'm sorry to be bugging you, but I can't wait to see those videos :D
>> Short form:
>>   Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I
>> finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it,
>> so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent).
>>
>> Long form:
>>   Google video is a pain in the ass.  It accepted the first upload (over
>> a gig), but wouldn't let me view it.  The second time (700 meg version
>> -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night.  I started it
>> when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling
>> slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps).  It finished while I slept.
>>  I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work
>> today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs).
>>
>> I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading.  As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce.
>>
>> The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out.  I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day).  It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses.  That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes.  Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable.  Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third.  I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident.  It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay.
>>
>> The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'.
>>
>> More soon..
> 
> brad you are a great guy & all. but with all due respect. what in the fuck is going on with those amazmoron lawyers. what the fuck is their problem. not only they sit one fucking year. no sorry. i mean not only they sit ONE FUCKING YEAR (and i fucking swore i'll never use caps again) on the videos like they're getting off them. perverts. but at the end they can't fucking give you proper fucking files or at least some fucking timings on what to remove. shit. you now have to watch all over just in case walter took his shorts off. geez. been waiting for those vids like a baboon in heat. pun not intended. shit.

Ahem.. you're _way_ off base here.

The _only_ aspect at which Amazon could be blamed is the time it took to get me the videos, but I'm also cutting the guys a bunch of slack due to reasons I'm NOT GOING TO GO INTO.  Every thing else is _me_ and _my_ desire to be cautious.  You want to blame me for it, fine.  Go ahead. It's your problem and I don't give a rats ass.

Later,
Brad

Brad Roberts Wrote:

> superdan wrote:
> > Brad Roberts Wrote:
> > 
> >> lurker wrote:
> >>> Hi Brad.
> >>>
> >>> Brad Roberts Wrote:
> >>>> I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight with the rest to follow as I can.
> >>> Did you had time to post them? I'm sorry to be bugging you, but I can't wait to see those videos :D
> >> Short form:
> >>   Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I
> >> finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it,
> >> so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent).
> >>
> >> Long form:
> >>   Google video is a pain in the ass.  It accepted the first upload (over
> >> a gig), but wouldn't let me view it.  The second time (700 meg version
> >> -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night.  I started it
> >> when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling
> >> slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps).  It finished while I slept.
> >>  I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work
> >> today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs).
> >>
> >> I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading.  As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce.
> >>
> >> The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out.  I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day).  It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses.  That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes.  Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable.  Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third.  I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident.  It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay.
> >>
> >> The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'.
> >>
> >> More soon..
> > 
> > brad you are a great guy & all. but with all due respect. what in the fuck is going on with those amazmoron lawyers. what the fuck is their problem. not only they sit one fucking year. no sorry. i mean not only they sit ONE FUCKING YEAR (and i fucking swore i'll never use caps again) on the videos like they're getting off them. perverts. but at the end they can't fucking give you proper fucking files or at least some fucking timings on what to remove. shit. you now have to watch all over just in case walter took his shorts off. geez. been waiting for those vids like a baboon in heat. pun not intended. shit.
> 
> Ahem.. you're _way_ off base here.
> 
> The _only_ aspect at which Amazon could be blamed is the time it took to get me the videos

yarp it's not "only". it's pretty much it.

superdan wrote:
> Brad Roberts Wrote:
> 
>> superdan wrote:
>>> Brad Roberts Wrote:
>>>
>>>> lurker wrote:
>>>>> Hi Brad.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad Roberts Wrote:
>>>>>> I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight with the rest to follow as I can.
>>>>> Did you had time to post them? I'm sorry to be bugging you, but I can't wait to see those videos :D
>>>> Short form:
>>>>   Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I
>>>> finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it,
>>>> so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent).
>>>>
>>>> Long form:
>>>>   Google video is a pain in the ass.  It accepted the first upload (over
>>>> a gig), but wouldn't let me view it.  The second time (700 meg version
>>>> -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night.  I started it
>>>> when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling
>>>> slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps).  It finished while I slept.
>>>>  I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work
>>>> today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs).
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are uploading.  As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant info on .announce.
>>>>
>>>> The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out.  I don't remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second day).  It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses.  That's the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about 10-15 minutes.  Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading unless it's outright unwatchable.  Making sure they're _my_ videos is the third.  I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other amazon presentations publicly by accident.  It'd take a lot of really stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay.
>>>>
>>>> The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'.
>>>>
>>>> More soon..
>>> brad you are a great guy & all. but with all due respect. what in the fuck is going on with those amazmoron lawyers. what the fuck is their problem. not only they sit one fucking year. no sorry. i mean not only they sit ONE FUCKING YEAR (and i fucking swore i'll never use caps again) on the videos like they're getting off them. perverts. but at the end they can't fucking give you proper fucking files or at least some fucking timings on what to remove. shit. you now have to watch all over just in case walter took his shorts off. geez. been waiting for those vids like a baboon in heat. pun not intended. shit.
>> Ahem.. you're _way_ off base here.
>>
>> The _only_ aspect at which Amazon could be blamed is the time it took to get me the videos
> 
> yarp it's not "only". it's pretty much it.

It's entirely you're right to feel slighted and feel free to continue to feel that way, however...

I should make it clear that the delay had nothing to do with lawyers or any policy problems.  Remember that I work for Amazon (and respect the people I work with) and that they donated the space and an awful lot of money.  Additionally, they were prepared to host it again, but I canceled purely due to lack of talks from the community.

Be glad that the conference happened at all.  Be glad that I volunteered to put in the time and effort to bring it together.  Be glad that the pdf and ppt files have been available since the conference ended.  Be glad that the thing was taped _at all_.  And as soon as I hit the public button, be glad you're able to watch them.  Bad talk me and the company I work for further, and I'll be very tempted to take my toys and go home, so to speak.

Sigh,
Brad

Thanks for doing all this work for us, Brad!

It's great to hear progress on the videos, that'll make a lot of people happy. Thanks for all your efforts, not only the videos but I imagine you have put a lot of time in D.

Brad Roberts wrote:
> superdan wrote:
>> Brad Roberts Wrote:
>>
>>> lurker wrote:
>>>> Hi Brad.
>>>>
>>>> Brad Roberts Wrote:
>>>>> I'll do my best to get at least walter and andrei's talks posted tonight with the rest to follow as I can.
>>>> Did you had time to post them? I'm sorry to be bugging you, but I can't wait to see those videos :D
>>> Short form:
>>>   Google now has both parts of 'the future of d', marked private until I
>>> finish watching both parts (uploaded before I got a chance to watch it,
>>> so doing so directly from google rather than the file I sent).
>>>
>>> Long form:
>>>   Google video is a pain in the ass.  It accepted the first upload (over
>>> a gig), but wouldn't let me view it.  The second time (700 meg version
>>> -- lower bitrate) I tried to upload it, it took all night.  I started it
>>> when I got home last night and after 4 hours, it was still trickling
>>> slow over (no where near my bandwidth caps).  It finished while I slept.
>>>  I started the upload of the second half to occur while I was at work
>>> today and it looks like it took 3ish hours (for another 700 megs).
>>>
>>> I'm going to finish watching both halves tonight while more videos are
>>> uploading.  As I watch them, I'll mark them public and post the relevant
>>> info on .announce.
>>>
>>> The primary reason I'm watching them is that at least one of them is
>>> _supposed_ to have a discussion at the end trimmed out.  I don't
>>> remember exactly when it occurred (other than that it was on the second
>>> day).  It diverged into the single issue that I was asked to stay away
>>> from when I got permission to host the conference... licenses.  That's
>>> the ONLY topic that won't be posted publicly and only constituted about
>>> 10-15 minutes.  Quality is the second, and won't stop me from uploading
>>> unless it's outright unwatchable.  Making sure they're _my_ videos is
>>> the third.  I won't want to be responsible for posting videos from other
>>> amazon presentations publicly by accident.  It'd take a lot of really
>>> stupid accidents to have that happen, but it only takes watching 'em
>>> once through to be certain, so it's a small price to pay.
>>>
>>> The quality of the parts I've watched as been 'ok' but not 'great'.
>>>
>>> More soon..
>> brad you are a great guy & all. but with all due respect. what in the fuck is going on with those amazmoron lawyers. what the fuck is their problem. not only they sit one fucking year. no sorry. i mean not only they sit ONE FUCKING YEAR (and i fucking swore i'll never use caps again) on the videos like they're getting off them. perverts. but at the end they can't fucking give you proper fucking files or at least some fucking timings on what to remove. shit. you now have to watch all over just in case walter took his shorts off. geez. been waiting for those vids like a baboon in heat. pun not intended. shit.
> 
> Ahem.. you're _way_ off base here.
> 
> The _only_ aspect at which Amazon could be blamed is the time it took to
> get me the videos, but I'm also cutting the guys a bunch of slack due to
> reasons I'm NOT GOING TO GO INTO.  Every thing else is _me_ and _my_
> desire to be cautious.  You want to blame me for it, fine.  Go ahead.
> It's your problem and I don't give a rats ass.
> 
> Later,
> Brad

Hi Brad,

Thanks for doing this.  Your not getting paid for this so I'm happy with whatever we get.  We should just be thankful that any videos are being uploaded at all.

-Joel

"Brad Roberts" <braddr@puremagic.com> wrote in message news:mailman.14.1215664690.32098.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...

> It's entirely you're right to feel slighted and feel free to continue to feel that way, however...
>
> I should make it clear that the delay had nothing to do with lawyers or any policy problems.  Remember that I work for Amazon (and respect the people I work with) and that they donated the space and an awful lot of money.  Additionally, they were prepared to host it again, but I canceled purely due to lack of talks from the community.
>
> Be glad that the conference happened at all.  Be glad that I volunteered to put in the time and effort to bring it together.  Be glad that the pdf and ppt files have been available since the conference ended.  Be glad that the thing was taped _at all_.  And as soon as I hit the public button, be glad you're able to watch them.  Bad talk me and the company I work for further, and I'll be very tempted to take my toys and go home, so to speak.
>
> Sigh,
> Brad

Please don't let superdan get to you.  With any luck he'll blow out of here just as soon as he blew in.

Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:

> "Brad Roberts" <braddr@puremagic.com> wrote in message news:mailman.14.1215664690.32098.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
> 
> > It's entirely you're right to feel slighted and feel free to continue to feel that way, however...
> >
> > I should make it clear that the delay had nothing to do with lawyers or any policy problems.  Remember that I work for Amazon (and respect the people I work with) and that they donated the space and an awful lot of money.  Additionally, they were prepared to host it again, but I canceled purely due to lack of talks from the community.
> >
> > Be glad that the conference happened at all.  Be glad that I volunteered to put in the time and effort to bring it together.  Be glad that the pdf and ppt files have been available since the conference ended.  Be glad that the thing was taped _at all_.  And as soon as I hit the public button, be glad you're able to watch them.  Bad talk me and the company I work for further, and I'll be very tempted to take my toys and go home, so to speak.
> >
> > Sigh,
> > Brad
> 
> Please don't let superdan get to you.  With any luck he'll blow out of here just as soon as he blew in.

yarp i agree i came off too strongly. (but one year???) sorry brad. you definitely are a great dood. thank you for all the fish.