"Bill Baxter" wrote
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Steven Schveighoffer <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Bruno Medeiros" wrote
>>> I wish there wasn't a need or desire to maintain 1.0 compatibility, and people would move to 2.0. The sole key to this being Tango of course. I understand you have good motives for not moving to 2.0 yet, but I hope those can solved quite sooner rather later. The D community has allways been divided in two camps, but never has the "rift" been so wide and hurtful as now. :/
>>
>> We have tried.  D2 has too many blocker bugs for Tango to work properly, otherwise, there would be a D2 port.
>>
>> But even if this did happen, there is no way that Tango would move to an
>> as-yet-unreleased compiler and abandon efforts on D1.  And most likely,
>> D1
>> Tango would continue to exist because some people simply don't like
>> const.
>>
>> I plan to move to D2 as soon as Tango can build with it.
>
> Is there a list of these Tango blocker bugs somewhere?
>
> Perhaps the list should be put into bugzilla as a meta-bug that references all the relevant issues in bugzilla.

That is a good idea.

> I have to believe
> that if Walter had a clear idea of what the bugs blocking Tango were,
> that he would prioritize them and wipe them out within a release or
> two.

Some of them might be on the fuzzy edge between "bugs" and "enhancements" :) But they need to be addressed in order for Tango to build regardless.

-Steve

Bill Baxter wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Steven Schveighoffer
> <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Bruno Medeiros" wrote
>>> I wish there wasn't a need or desire to maintain 1.0 compatibility, and
>>> people would move to 2.0. The sole key to this being Tango of course. I
>>> understand you have good motives for not moving to 2.0 yet, but I hope
>>> those can solved quite sooner rather later. The D community has allways
>>> been divided in two camps, but never has the "rift" been so wide and
>>> hurtful as now. :/
>> We have tried.  D2 has too many blocker bugs for Tango to work properly,
>> otherwise, there would be a D2 port.
>>
>> But even if this did happen, there is no way that Tango would move to an
>> as-yet-unreleased compiler and abandon efforts on D1.  And most likely, D1
>> Tango would continue to exist because some people simply don't like const.
>>
>> I plan to move to D2 as soon as Tango can build with it.
> 
> Is there a list of these Tango blocker bugs somewhere?
> 
> Perhaps the list should be put into bugzilla as a meta-bug that
> references all the relevant issues in bugzilla.  I have to believe
> that if Walter had a clear idea of what the bugs blocking Tango were,
> that he would prioritize them and wipe them out within a release or
> two.
> 
> --bb

I'm not so sure Walter would fix the bugs that promptly, for starters there could be issues in which there is a debate whether the issue is actually a bug or a (possibly breaking) enhancement request, which Walter seems more reluctant to "fix". And I recall Sean mentioning several such issues (for example the one about a way to specify scope delegates, to prevent closure heap allocation)

Such list would be nice to have nonetheless, at least for people to have a general idea of what's missing for D2.0 to be considered a viable target for Tango. And perhaps so that other Tango users would know the issues and exert more pressure to Walter to fix them.


-- 
Bruno Medeiros - Software Developer, MSc. in CS/E graduate
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?BrunoMedeiros#D

"Bill Baxter" wrote
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Steven Schveighoffer
>> "Bruno Medeiros" wrote
>>> I wish there wasn't a need or desire to maintain 1.0 compatibility, and people would move to 2.0. The sole key to this being Tango of course. I understand you have good motives for not moving to 2.0 yet, but I hope those can solved quite sooner rather later. The D community has allways been divided in two camps, but never has the "rift" been so wide and hurtful as now. :/
>>
>> We have tried.  D2 has too many blocker bugs for Tango to work properly, otherwise, there would be a D2 port.
>>
>> But even if this did happen, there is no way that Tango would move to an
>> as-yet-unreleased compiler and abandon efforts on D1.  And most likely,
>> D1
>> Tango would continue to exist because some people simply don't like
>> const.
>>
>> I plan to move to D2 as soon as Tango can build with it.
>
> Is there a list of these Tango blocker bugs somewhere?
>
> Perhaps the list should be put into bugzilla as a meta-bug that references all the relevant issues in bugzilla.  I have to believe that if Walter had a clear idea of what the bugs blocking Tango were, that he would prioritize them and wipe them out within a release or two.

Added bugzilla number 2267 http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2267

-Steve