Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:

> "superdan" <super@dan.org> wrote in message news:g5qa4f$n1g$1@digitalmars.com...
> > Matti Niemenmaa Wrote:
> >
> >> Walter Bright wrote:
> >> > I don't see the need for an inline or non-inline specifier. It's as obsolete as the register keyword.
> >>
> >> Then why was "inout" renamed to "ref"?
> >>
> >> Before you say, "so that we could have 'const ref'", let me note that ref
> >> in
> >> that sense is as obsolete as inline or register. It should just be "in"
> >> or the
> >> default and the compiler should figure out whether it's by-reference or
> >> by-value.
> >
> > how is that even close to making sense?
> >
> > before you say, "but value vs. 'in' is entirely transparent to the user", let me note that aliasing is going to fuck that plan right there.
> >
> > deciding value vs. reference only works for invariant shit. it's in fact part of why invariant shit is so fucking brilliant.
> 
> Dan, you make good points and seem to have a head on your shoulders, but the swearing really is unnecessary.  That doesn't mean I don't swear, I do it all the time.  But this is not really the place for it.
> 
> Consider how much more coherent and reasonable your post sounds like this:
> 
> ----
> how is that even close to making sense?
> 
> before you say, "but value vs. 'in' is entirely transparent to the user", let me note that aliasing is going to completely invalidate that plan right there.
> 
> deciding value vs. reference only works for invariant data. it's in fact part of why invariant data is so incredibly brilliant.
> ----
> 
> Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.

you're a good guy jarrett so i'll reply to this. the problem is i'm not a good guy. anyone who knows me would agree i'm a gaping asshole. but at least i'm not bullshitting. if i say something online you know i could say the same to your face. and anyone fucking with me will get a good serving of knuckle juice with shin extract for good measure. so why would i lie online by being nice.

if anything pisses me off it's the opposite phenomenon: people who are all nicey-nicey in real life and they let their fucking aggression go berserk online. if most would have to say to another's face 10% of what they say online, they'd shit in their pants. as an example. i couldn't make it to the d conference last year. did anyone start a fight? i bet not. yet if this group was any indication, that would've been a fucking ufc conference, not a d conference.

sticking online with what you could afford saying irl is the best way.

superdan wrote:
> Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:

>> Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy. 

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.

If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least communicate with proper edicate.

-Joel

JAnderson Wrote:

> superdan wrote:
> > Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
> 
> >> Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.
> 
> I'm glad I'm not the only one.
> 
> In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
> 
> If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least communicate with proper edicate.

you almost had me convinced. then i saw the last word. shit man. edicate? did you mean etiquette? are you gwb undercover?

JAnderson wrote:
> superdan wrote:
>> Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
> 
>>> Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.
> 
> I'm glad I'm not the only one.
> 
> In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
> 
> If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least communicate with proper edicate.

Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes your _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing long to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.

Reply to superdan,

>
> you almost had me convinced. then i saw the last word. shit man.
> edicate? did you mean etiquette? are you gwb undercover?
> 

Bad speling does not invalideat a point  (ignoreing things like "this statemeant is speled corectly"). The only reson that bad speling wood make a diference is if the readar is incapeble of  logikal though and asumes that if the righter can spel that the argumint is valod.

Bad spelling does not invalidate a point (ignoring things like "this statement is spelled correctly"). The only reason that bad spelling would make a difference is if the reader is incapable of logical though and assumes that if the writer can spell that the argument is valid.

QED

Chris R. Miller Wrote:

> JAnderson wrote:
> > superdan wrote:
> >> Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
> > 
> >>> Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.
> > 
> > I'm glad I'm not the only one.
> > 
> > In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
> > 
> > If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least communicate with proper edicate.
> 
> Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes your _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing long to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.

did you mean "your"?

superdan wrote:
> Chris R. Miller Wrote:
> 
>> JAnderson wrote:
>>> superdan wrote:
>>>> Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
>>>>> Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.
>>> I'm glad I'm not the only one.
>>>
>>> In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
>>>
>>> If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least communicate with proper edicate.
>> Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes your _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing long to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.
> 
> did you mean "your"?

No, my grammar was correct.  You're = you are (contraction), your = you (possessive).

Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the other guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?

Reply to Chris,

> superdan wrote:
> 
>> Chris R. Miller Wrote:
>> 
>>> Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes
>>> your _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so
>>> ______ing long to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore
>>> them.
>>> 
>> did you mean "your"?
>> 
> No, my grammar was correct.  You're = you are (contraction), your =
> you (possessive).
> 
> Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the
> other guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?
> 

to give him /some/ credit: I think, depending on what ______ and _____ is used, "your" and "you're" may both be correct. But who the _____* cares!

* I can see it now, this thread will end in a post with nothing but _s and ' 's.

Chris R. Miller Wrote:

> superdan wrote:
> > Chris R. Miller Wrote:
> > 
> >> JAnderson wrote:
> >>> superdan wrote:
> >>>> Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
> >>>>> Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.
> >>> I'm glad I'm not the only one.
> >>>
> >>> In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
> >>>
> >>> If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least communicate with proper edicate.
> >> Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes your _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing long to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.
> > 
> > did you mean "your"?
> 
> No, my grammar was correct.  You're = you are (contraction), your = you (possessive).
> 
> Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the other guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?

it was a legit question, einstein. i couldn't figure out what "____ity" means.

at any rate. if someone asks me to change my language, they'd be a lot more credible if they had theirs in good shape. cussing is a choice. "edicate" is ignorance.

superdan wrote:
> Chris R. Miller Wrote:
> 
>> superdan wrote:
>>> Chris R. Miller Wrote:
>>>
>>>> JAnderson wrote:
>>>>> superdan wrote:
>>>>>> Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:
>>>>>>> Please don't take this as an attack, I'm not trying to make you feel like you're less of a member of the community.  Swearing on the internet just makes you seem like a 13-year-old boy.
>>>>> I'm glad I'm not the only one.
>>>>>
>>>>> In general I find it hard to read someone text if it has swearing all over it.  I generally ignore those emails as I feel they have no valuable content and they make me feel sick.  I don't want to be thinking about the bathroom while in technical discussions.
>>>>>
>>>>> If someone wants to be taken seriously they should try to at least communicate with proper edicate.
>>>> Well if you're ______ity _____ cussing all the _____ time it makes your _______ing messages so much _______ing longer it takes so ______ing long to _______ing read them that I just _____ing ignore them.
>>> did you mean "your"?
>> No, my grammar was correct.  You're = you are (contraction), your = you (possessive).
>>
>> Perhaps you'd like to go play the part of a Grammar Nazi with the other guys on irc.freenode.net/##English ?
> 
> it was a legit question, einstein. i couldn't figure out what "____ity" means.

Fair enough.

> at any rate. if someone asks me to change my language, they'd be a lot more credible if they had theirs in good shape. cussing is a choice. "edicate" is ignorance.

Cussing in a _public_ forum is absolutely intolerable.  Savvy?