Hi all,
Is it just me, or does anyone think it may be a good idea to use a
phpBB style forum instead/aswell? I understand the reasoning behind
the current system, as many of you have dedicated news readers which
parse the emailed posts into a more thread like manner afterwards.

However, for many people who don't have these readers (and don't want to try one yet), but who are very interested in D, the flat like posts may put them off, and that of course would be a great shame.

To get the best of both worlds, one could get some backend server software to automatically parse the posts into a thread/phpbb like system, AND for the posts to be sent in the usual way to be read by the specialized newsgroup software readers. Is there such a system? - if not then why not, as it would be beneficial to everyone.

At the same time, we can remove (or subsume) the old 'deprecated' D
newsgroup.

Daniel White wrote:
> However, for many people who don't have these readers (and don't want
> to try one yet)

Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet" thing pans out?

 - Gregor Richards

Reply to Gregor,

> Daniel White wrote:
> 
>> However, for many people who don't have these readers (and don't want
>> to try one yet)
>> 
> Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet" thing pans out?
> 
> - Gregor Richards
> 

Oh quit being sutch a grouch /j <G>

We do REALLY need to get something better for the on line news page.

Daniel White wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is it just me, or does anyone think it may be a good idea to use a
> phpBB style forum instead/aswell? I understand the reasoning behind
> the current system, as many of you have dedicated news readers which
> parse the emailed posts into a more thread like manner afterwards.
> 
> However, for many people who don't have these readers (and don't want
> to try one yet), but who are very interested in D, the flat like
> posts may put them off, and that of course would be a great shame.
> 
> To get the best of both worlds, one could get some backend server
> software to automatically parse the posts into a thread/phpbb like
> system, AND for the posts to be sent in the usual way to be read by
> the specialized newsgroup software readers. Is there such a system? -
> if not then why not, as it would be beneficial to everyone.
> 
> At the same time, we can remove (or subsume) the old 'deprecated' D
> newsgroup.

What about dsource?

http://www.dsource.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=bf42f9a6c5dd6e1a22725d571610e216

-Joel

> We do REALLY need to get something better for the on line news page.
I know that for most "Blog" pops to mind while reading that 2.0 sentence.
But who can be bothered with the signing in just to blog your mood.
That is why I vote for an imageboard.

btw. bump

Daniel White wrote:
> To get the best of both worlds, one could get some backend server
> software to automatically parse the posts into a thread/phpbb like
> system, AND for the posts to be sent in the usual way to be read by
> the specialized newsgroup software readers. Is there such a system? -
> if not then why not, as it would be beneficial to everyone.

http://www.osronline.com claims to have such a system for their forums. I signed up for it, but their server rejects my attempts to use Thunderbird's newsgroup reader on it, so I can't vouch for it actually working.

> Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet" thing pans out?

Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum would allow editing of posts, and probably other advantages (better quoting, and image support) - something not available in this current system.



> What about dsource?

Aha, so there is a forum. But case in point, I didn't know about it. Okay, having a look at the main DigitalMars D site I've just found a link to the dsource site, but it wasn't a main link on the left side panel, so it's very easy for newcomers to miss.

Except it's probably not meant for newcomers, as there's no 'help' forum there. But to have two seperate forums/lists is a pain surely? Would it be good for them to be unified?

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Daniel White <twinbee42@skytopia.com> wrote:
>> Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet" thing pans out?
>
> Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum would allow editing of posts, and probably other advantages (better quoting, and image support) - something not available in this current system.

And better code formatting, and a reduction in sockpuppetry, and - the big one for me - remote state.  I have two computers, one of which is dual-booted, and I use lab computers as well.  A newsreader client does _not_ work for me.  GMail + mailing lists is _okay_ but I'd really prefer something that was really made for this kind of discussion.

>> What about dsource?
>
> Aha, so there is a forum. But case in point, I didn't know about it. Okay, having a look at the main DigitalMars D site I've just found a link to the dsource site, but it wasn't a main link on the left side panel, so it's very easy for newcomers to miss.
>
> Except it's probably not meant for newcomers, as there's no 'help' forum there. But to have two seperate forums/lists is a pain surely? Would it be good for them to be unified?

The other problem with the dsource forum is that next to no one uses it.  Notice the most recent post on there is from over a month ago.

It would be great to have a unified interface.

Daniel White wrote:
>> Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
>> thing pans out?
> 
> Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
> would allow editing of posts, and probably other advantages
> (better quoting, and image support) - something not available
> in this current system.

Of course you probably know that from thunderbird you can edit these posts.

-Joel

Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Daniel White <twinbee42@skytopia.com> wrote:
>>> Waitin' 'til '91 or so to see if this whole "Internet"
>>> thing pans out?
>> Lol. In all fairness though, a centralized phpBB-like forum
>> would allow editing of posts, and probably other advantages
>> (better quoting, and image support) - something not available
>> in this current system.
> 
> And better code formatting, and a reduction in sockpuppetry, and - the
> big one for me - remote state.  
...

/remote state/

YES yes yes.

This whole client-side state thingy bothers me quite a bit as well.