Found the new system language named Rust, currently in development stage by Mozilla group:
http://wiki.github.com/graydon/rust/language-faq
http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4009
https://github.com/downloads/graydon/rust/rust-2010-07-08-snap.pdf

It uses both a more normal GC and reference count, for different purposes. This can be a good idea.
It allows to use both mutable and immutable data, the default is immutable.
It uses an idea named "Typestate" that I have just started reading about.
Logging is built-in and done widely. It tries to follows some of the reliability ideas from Erlang.
It looks quite more complete than the Go language.

Bye,
bearophile

On 09/07/2010 03:14, bearophile wrote:
> Found the new system language named Rust, currently in development stage by Mozilla group:
> http://wiki.github.com/graydon/rust/language-faq
> http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4009
> https://github.com/downloads/graydon/rust/rust-2010-07-08-snap.pdf
>
> It uses both a more normal GC and reference count, for different purposes. This can be a good idea.
> It allows to use both mutable and immutable data, the default is immutable.
> It uses an idea named "Typestate" that I have just started reading about.
> Logging is built-in and done widely. It tries to follows some of the reliability ideas from Erlang.
> It looks quite more complete than the Go language.
>
> Bye,
> bearophile

..another ocaml like language;;
for each (man (who,fail) s in programming()) {OneStinkyBurger4Free;}

I've tried OCaml quit often, but this language simply does not feel right. let person bjoern = freeFromThatShit;

"bearophile" <bearophileHUGS@lycos.com> wrote in message news:i15t6h$16jv$1@digitalmars.com...
> Found the new system language named Rust, currently in development stage
> by Mozilla group:
> http://wiki.github.com/graydon/rust/language-faq
> http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4009
> https://github.com/downloads/graydon/rust/rust-2010-07-08-snap.pdf
>
> It uses both a more normal GC and reference count, for different purposes.
> This can be a good idea.
> It allows to use both mutable and immutable data, the default is
> immutable.
> It uses an idea named "Typestate" that I have just started reading about.
> Logging is built-in and done widely. It tries to follows some of the
> reliability ideas from Erlang.
> It looks quite more complete than the Go language.
>

A language from Mozilla, huh?

Prediction: Each version will include arbitrary-but-non-optional breaking changes, but only for the things that worked fine, and better, before.

Ok, yea, I know that's a lousy joke...but so is Mozilla! Zing!

"Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> wrote in message news:i16228$1e2g$1@digitalmars.com...
> "bearophile" <bearophileHUGS@lycos.com> wrote in message news:i15t6h$16jv$1@digitalmars.com...
>> Found the new system language named Rust, currently in development stage
>> by Mozilla group:
>> http://wiki.github.com/graydon/rust/language-faq
>> http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4009
>> https://github.com/downloads/graydon/rust/rust-2010-07-08-snap.pdf
>>
>> It uses both a more normal GC and reference count, for different
>> purposes. This can be a good idea.
>> It allows to use both mutable and immutable data, the default is
>> immutable.
>> It uses an idea named "Typestate" that I have just started reading about.
>> Logging is built-in and done widely. It tries to follows some of the
>> reliability ideas from Erlang.
>> It looks quite more complete than the Go language.
>>
>
> A language from Mozilla, huh?
>
> Prediction: Each version will include arbitrary-but-non-optional breaking changes, but only for the things that worked fine, and better, before.
>
> Ok, yea, I know that's a lousy joke...but so is Mozilla! Zing!
>

Man...And I normally complain about trolls... ;)

On 09.07.2010 03:14, bearophile wrote:
> It allows to use both mutable and immutable data, the default is immutable.

This i like the most about it, back when D2 introduced immutable i hoped we could get immutable-by-default too ;(