On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:49:00 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:

> "Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:infu1q$6bn$1@digitalmars.com...
>> Am 05.04.2011 22:20, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
>>>
>>> I'm referring to Firefox 4. What's the "AwfulBar" ?
>>>
>>
>> Probably the "Awesomebar".. the feature in FF3+ that searches all
>> visisted URLs (and the page titles) for the word you type into the
>> URL-bar (and not just completes URLs like before).
>> http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2008/04/21/a-little-something-awesome-about-firefox-3/
>>
>
> Yea, it's also really, really ugly.

You just like swimming upstream, don't you :)

I personally cannot live without that firefox feature, and when it stops working (which happens from time to time), I'm pissed.

-Steve

Am 05.04.2011 22:49, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
> "Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes@gmail.com> wrote in message news:infu1q$6bn$1@digitalmars.com...
>> Am 05.04.2011 22:20, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
>>>
>>> I'm referring to Firefox 4. What's the "AwfulBar" ?
>>>
>>
>> Probably the "Awesomebar".. the feature in FF3+ that searches all
>> visisted URLs (and the page titles) for the word you type into the
>> URL-bar (and not just completes URLs like before).
>> http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2008/04/21/a-little-something-awesome-about-firefox-3/
>>
> 
> Yea, it's also really, really ugly.
> 

"We didn't have it in the 90s so we don't need it now" :P

However: The awesomebar search feature can be deactivated with browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped = false in about:config and the old look can be brought back with https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/oldbar/ .

Cheers,
- Daniel

On 4/5/11, Jacob Carlborg <doob@me.com> wrote:
> On 2011-04-05 20:57, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>> On 4/5/11, Jacob Carlborg<doob@me.com>  wrote:
>>> It's handy if you have a common directory with lib files.
>>
>> Well I've always wanted to do that, but how eactly do you set a library search directory with Optlink/DMD?
>
> Don't know about Optlink but on Posix systems it's: -L-L/path/to/libraires

Oh well that's an LD trick then. :)

I have figured out a way to do it with Optlink, but I have to use the
LIB environment variable. So in a batch file I could have:
set LIB=C:\PathToMyLib\;%LIB%
dmd test.d myLib.lib

This will work. I should update the dwiki entry and add this information there.

On 4/5/11, Andrej Mitrovic <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote:
> I should update the dwiki entry and add this information there.

Done: http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?D__Tutorial/CompilingLinkingD#PassingsearchdirectoriesforlibraryfilestoOptlink

Which reminds me.. who is in charge of the layout on the left side of the Wiki? I think it would be nice to have a "Tutorials" link or section put up there. Right now you can get to it by going through the HowTo first.

"Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:op.vthgdrtueav7ka@steve-laptop...
> On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:49:00 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>
>> "Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes@gmail.com> wrote in message news:infu1q$6bn$1@digitalmars.com...
>>> Am 05.04.2011 22:20, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
>>>>
>>>> I'm referring to Firefox 4. What's the "AwfulBar" ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Probably the "Awesomebar".. the feature in FF3+ that searches all
>>> visisted URLs (and the page titles) for the word you type into the
>>> URL-bar (and not just completes URLs like before).
>>> http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2008/04/21/a-little-something-awesome-about-firefox-3/
>>>
>>
>> Yea, it's also really, really ugly.
>
> You just like swimming upstream, don't you :)
>
> I personally cannot live without that firefox feature, and when it stops working (which happens from time to time), I'm pissed.
>

The thing is, it's idiotic to make changes like that non-optional. There's a *lot* of people who hate it.

El 05/04/2011 15:32, Jacob Carlborg escribió:
> On 2011-04-05 15:25, Matthias Pleh wrote:
>> Am 05.04.2011 15:06, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
>>> On 2011-04-05 13:08, Matthias Pleh wrote:
>>>> So I think for short or middle term such solution like gtkD, QtD, DWT
>>>> are good, but for the long term the D community needs a D GUI library
>>>> completly written in D.
>>>>
>>>> Just my thoughts
>>>> °Matthias
>>>>
>>>
>>> You do know that DWT is completely written in D? Don't you think we can
>>> create an environment for creating D GUI applications using DWT?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, that would be an option. I have thought several times about that.
>> But I think, to get really acceptet by a wide range of developers, the
>> library must be adjusted, to suit better the D coding style. This way we
>> could get the whole power of D. But this also means that you get more
>> and more away from the java path and sometime you are not able any more
>> to merge changes in the java path to D.
>> So this means, this would really be a fork, not just a port.
>> (I hope, I have explained it correctly in my broken english, and I hope
>> it sound not rude :|
>>
>>
>> °Matthias
>
> I see what you mean and I'm not seeing it as rude. It's hard to find a
> balance where it's still possible to merge future versions and taking
> full advantage of D.
>

DWT is an impressive achievement (as are gtkD and QtD), really. It's great what it can do without needing other languages. Nevertheless DWT might be in D and compile with D compilers, but looks more like "Dava" (Java-like D) :-)

I was expecting a real D system (kind of forgetting its SWT origin) and got a bit surprised when I browsed the code. Its very Java-ish (even contains D ports of String, Integer, Runnable, File, InputStream, etc.). What I mean is that I find it hard cosidering DWT "the One D GUI library". It would not do D justice.

But, ugh, I understand that it's more practical this way, so improvements in SWT can be adapted easily.

What would be the best solution? to D-ify more QtD? to D-ify DWT? gtkD? Would it be worth? Just keep them as they are?

"Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes@gmail.com> wrote in message news:infvsb$6bn$2@digitalmars.com...
> Am 05.04.2011 22:49, schrieb Nick Sabalausky:
>> "Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes@gmail.com> wrote in message news:infu1q$6bn$1@digitalmars.com...
>>> Am 05.04.2011 22:20, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
>>>>
>>>> I'm referring to Firefox 4. What's the "AwfulBar" ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Probably the "Awesomebar".. the feature in FF3+ that searches all
>>> visisted URLs (and the page titles) for the word you type into the
>>> URL-bar (and not just completes URLs like before).
>>> http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2008/04/21/a-little-something-awesome-about-firefox-3/
>>>
>>
>> Yea, it's also really, really ugly.
>>
>
> "We didn't have it in the 90s so we don't need it now" :P
>

We didn't have D in the 90's, and I may very well have abandoned programming had I not come across it.

> However: The awesomebar search feature can be deactivated with browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped = false in about:config and the old look can be brought back with https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/oldbar/ .
>

matchOnlyTyped only affects part of the changed behavior, and I already have to have way too damn many "addons" (read: "third party hacks") just to make FF usable. Fuck, am I really *expected* to like or put up with something just people other people like it? Forget the 90's, this is "1984".

Am 05.04.2011 23:08, schrieb Andrej Mitrovic:
> Which reminds me.. who is in charge of the layout on the left side of
> the Wiki? I think it would be nice to have a "Tutorials" link or
> section put up there. Right now you can get to it by going through the
> HowTo first.


Done!

P.S.: the main wiki-Template for wiki4d is on dTemplate
http://prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?dTemplate

But, be careful, you change the hole wiki!

°Matthias

Matthias Pleh wrote:
> Have you some code around, which we can push further?

Yeah, I'm porting one of the C components to D, then will post it here.

(The D headers weren't good enough and I got lazy when copying them
over and decided to just write a couple of the functions in C instead.
I've already moved the X11 over to D, now need to do the same to
the Windows side.)

On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 17:15:21 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:

> "Steven Schveighoffer" <schveiguy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:op.vthgdrtueav7ka@steve-laptop...
>> On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:49:00 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>>
>>> "Daniel Gibson" <metalcaedes@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:infu1q$6bn$1@digitalmars.com...
>>>> Am 05.04.2011 22:20, schrieb Jacob Carlborg:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm referring to Firefox 4. What's the "AwfulBar" ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Probably the "Awesomebar".. the feature in FF3+ that searches all
>>>> visisted URLs (and the page titles) for the word you type into the
>>>> URL-bar (and not just completes URLs like before).
>>>> http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2008/04/21/a-little-something-awesome-about-firefox-3/
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yea, it's also really, really ugly.
>>
>> You just like swimming upstream, don't you :)
>>
>> I personally cannot live without that firefox feature, and when it stops
>> working (which happens from time to time), I'm pissed.
>>
>
> The thing is, it's idiotic to make changes like that non-optional. There's a
> *lot* of people who hate it.

All the posts I've seen (searching for hate awesome bar) talk about how it does not find the links you type in, it only finds lots of other stuff you don't want.

I think they have fixed a lot of those problems.  It seems to 99% of the time find what I want.  It seems to find quite high on the list links where I type a portion of the address, which I believe is what FF2 used to do.

Opera's equivalent to the awesome bar, on the other hand, is next to useless.  So I can see how people would have hated it if it was like that originally.

For example, I sometimes want to post a link in my news post to a prior post.  In order to do this, I want to fire up webnews from digitalmars.com.  I figure typing in webnews would come up with the link, but opera doesn't.  If I type in digitalmars, then it's on the list, but not the first one.

In firefox, it's the first link when I type in webnews.

-Steve