You too can work on D for iOS

On 6/11/15 10:13 PM, Dan Olson wrote: > Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your own > iOS apps with Xcode now. As usual, you still need a Mac to run Xcode. > > http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-download-build-and-sideload-ios-apps-for-free/ > Very cool. I let my developer license expire because I haven't done any real iOS work in over a year. But this is nice for tinkering. When you are ready to submit to the app store, you can pay for the license :) -Steve

On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote: > Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your own > iOS apps with Xcode now. As usual, you still need a Mac to run Xcode. > > http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-download-build-and-sideload-ios-apps-for-free/ Huh, that's crazy that they don't make the iOS toolchain available outside OS X. The Android toolchain is available for all three major desktop platforms. Still, good that at least you don't have to pay now.

On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 03:47:48 UTC, Joakim wrote: > Huh, that's crazy that they don't make the iOS toolchain available outside OS X. This _is_ Apple that we're talking about here. - Jonathan M Davis

On 6/11/15 11:47 PM, Joakim wrote: > On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote: >> Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your own >> iOS apps with Xcode now. As usual, you still need a Mac to run Xcode. >> >> http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-download-build-and-sideload-ios-apps-for-free/ >> > > Huh, that's crazy that they don't make the iOS toolchain available > outside OS X. The Android toolchain is available for all three major > desktop platforms. Still, good that at least you don't have to pay now. You can develop for iOS on other platforms (I think not using objective-c or swift), but you cannot submit an app to the app store without Xcode. Really, I don't see why Apple needs to care about other platforms -- it's their toolchain, their runtime. This makes things very easy for them support-wise, and people still line up to get iPhones, so the incentive to support other platforms isn't really there. At dconf, I'd say at least 50% of the laptops were macs. They are good systems to use. The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500 new, and you get Xcode free. -Steve

On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500 new, and you get Xcode free. I don't want to be that guy but living in Brazil that Mac Mini (Yosemite) costs 6x more in here. I mean it can be more cheap to travel to U.S. and buy one there and go back than buying directly in here. Matheus.

On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: > > The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500 > new, and you get Xcode free. > The last two computers I bought were about $340 each. And those are laptops, with screen and battery and everything.

On 12/06/2015 6:45 p.m., Nick Sabalausky wrote: > On 06/12/2015 12:51 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote: >> >> The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500 >> new, and you get Xcode free. >> > > The last two computers I bought were about $340 each. And those are > laptops, with screen and battery and everything. > In New Zealand a fully upgraded top of the line model (the kind you get from Apply directly) is ~ $4000. For in store top of the line not fully upgraded it is about $3000. Mac Mini ~$1000. Well and truly above exchange rate.

June 12, 2015

Re: You too can work on D for iOS

Posted by Paulo Pinto
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Paulo Pinto

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On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 04:51:29 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On 6/11/15 11:47 PM, Joakim wrote:
>> On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 02:13:26 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
>>> Looks like there is no membership fee to build and install your own
>>> iOS apps with Xcode now.  As usual, you still need a Mac to run Xcode.
>>>
>>> http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/10/xcode-7-allows-anyone-to-download-build-and-sideload-ios-apps-for-free/
>>>
>>
>> Huh, that's crazy that they don't make the iOS toolchain available
>> outside OS X.  The Android toolchain is available for all three major
>> desktop platforms.  Still, good that at least you don't have to pay now.
>
> You can develop for iOS on other platforms (I think not using objective-c or swift), but you cannot submit an app to the app store without Xcode.
>
> Really, I don't see why Apple needs to care about other platforms -- it's their toolchain, their runtime. This makes things very easy for them support-wise, and people still line up to get iPhones, so the incentive to support other platforms isn't really there.
>
> At dconf, I'd say at least 50% of the laptops were macs. They are good systems to use.
>
> The cost is really minimal if you are serious. A Mac Mini costs $500 new, and you get Xcode free.
>
> -Steve

The minimum wage in Portugal is around 400€ after taxes, with around 1000€ for many university degrees.

You can guess how many go out and buy a Mac.

--
Paulo

On Friday, 12 June 2015 at 07:36:51 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: > The minimum wage in Portugal is around 400€ after taxes, with around 1000€ for many university degrees. > > You can guess how many go out and buy a Mac. > > -- > Paulo I remember I saw almost every student at IST with a Mac, and when everyone started to talk about the crisis, people were like "uhm, well, we can't now afford to replace our Macs with new ones every year, only every other year maybe".

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