On 03/03/2011 16:17, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 3/3/11 3:48 AM, Jens Mueller wrote:
>> Dear list,
>>
>> Trass3r brought it up and I think it's a very good idea. D is lacking
>> some man power. The mentoring deadline is 11th of March. There are
>> important and interesting projects students may work on.
>>
>> I'm writing this post seeking answers to
>> 1. What's the "official" D stand on this matter?
>> 2. Are there already students who have time and would like to join? What
>> are you interested in?
>>
>> The first question is currently the more important one. The organization
>> administrator has to submit an application until the above deadline.
>> The purpose of the second question is to get some feedback whether it
>> would be worthwhile to submit an application. Because later on students
>> need to propose/join a project.
>>
>> Jens
>>
>> PS
>> The FAQs on http://code.google.com/soc/ is very helpful.
>
> Thanks for this idea. I plan to submit an organization application. As
> of now I'm unclear whether Digital Mars would be the best organization
> to apply, as opposed to an unincorporated "d-programming-language.org"
> entity. I'll discuss this with Walter. All, please chime in if you have
> related experience.
>
> We have a number of good projects to work on:
>
> * XML library
>
> * Networking library
>
> * IDE
>
> * Lexer/parser generator
>
> * Containers
>
> * Encryption/hashing
>
> * Thrift bindings
>
> * ...
>
>
> Andrei


This would be great indeed, to have some help from Google Summer of Code, but I fear it might be difficult to get ourselves accepted as a mentoring organization.

I did apply to GSoC once, as a student, in 2006, but this was a year where they allowed applications without a mentoring organization (although you would still need a mentoring individual). It was the last year they allowed that though (as well as the students themselves defining the proposal).

We might try something like this: "Tcl/Tk Community" - http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2010/tcltk as it would be an accurate representation of what a D mentoring organization could be... we are "only" a community right now, there is no formal organization, nor do we represent a single project like some other organizations do. But the Google guys are smart, and if we can demonstrate wide enough interest in our open-source projects, that should be enough. Not an easy thing given D's current popularity, but still, definitely worth a try.

-- 
Bruno Medeiros - Software Engineer

On 3/8/11 1:23 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
> We might try something like this: "Tcl/Tk Community" -
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2010/tcltk as it
> would be an accurate representation of what a D mentoring organization
> could be... we are "only" a community right now, there is no formal
> organization, nor do we represent a single project like some other
> organizations do.

This is incorrect. I applied with Walter's approval and support on behalf of Digital Mars, which is a full-fledged organization.

Andrei

On 08/03/2011 21:42, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 3/8/11 1:23 PM, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
>> We might try something like this: "Tcl/Tk Community" -
>> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2010/tcltk as it
>> would be an accurate representation of what a D mentoring organization
>> could be... we are "only" a community right now, there is no formal
>> organization, nor do we represent a single project like some other
>> organizations do.
>
> This is incorrect. I applied with Walter's approval and support on
> behalf of Digital Mars, which is a full-fledged organization.
>
> Andrei

Ah, yes, Digital Mars is proper organization, no question about it. But like you I also saw it unclear whether that would be the best one to represent D as an open-source mentoring organization, as opposed to a more abstract entity.

BTW, I see now your new post about GSoC ideas, I'll add one or two relating to IDE and tools there.

-- 
Bruno Medeiros - Software Engineer

On 04/03/2011 00:10, jasonw wrote:
> Not trying to be political, but as we know Facebook and Google are competing enemies. Why do you think Google would support some Facebook project financially?

Competing? Yes a little bit. Enemies? Hum, I wouldn't put it that way, maybe rivals is a better term. It's not like Facebook is Oracle, for which there is a true, much more substantial animosity.

In any case, it's the projects themselves that matter, and if they are open source and popular enough, that's what matters. And proof of that is that Facebook was indeed accepted for last years GSoC, and had 6 accepted projects.

-- 
Bruno Medeiros - Software Engineer