Thread overview
Looking to remove the "Page wiki" buttons
Jun 08, 2015
Vladimir Panteleev
Jun 08, 2015
Brad Anderson
Jun 08, 2015
Vladimir Panteleev
Jun 09, 2015
Vladimir Panteleev
June 08, 2015
The click rate on the "Page wiki" buttons linking to one wiki page per phobos page seems to be 0%. Any significant wiki pages in existence? -- Andrei
June 08, 2015
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 05:16:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> The click rate on the "Page wiki" buttons linking to one wiki page per phobos page seems to be 0%.

Wait, how do you know this?

> Any significant wiki pages in existence? -- Andrei

There were quite a few on the old wiki (which doesn't matter any more since the information is outdated). Moving the website to GitHub lowered the contribution bar, so I agree these buttons are mostly obsolete. Even if there is content there, it is not very discoverable.
June 08, 2015
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 21:23:02 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 05:16:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> The click rate on the "Page wiki" buttons linking to one wiki page per phobos page seems to be 0%.
>
> Wait, how do you know this?
>
>> Any significant wiki pages in existence? -- Andrei
>
> There were quite a few on the old wiki (which doesn't matter any more since the information is outdated). Moving the website to GitHub lowered the contribution bar, so I agree these buttons are mostly obsolete. Even if there is content there, it is not very discoverable.

I imagine you could scrape the wiki access logs and check for when the referrer is dlang.org to see how much it's actually used. I suspect it's almost non-existent though.

When I added the Improve This Page button the goal was to make the website act like a moderated wiki. I didn't even know about the page wiki stuff until I went to implement that button. I suspect not many people realize it's there. The wiki is good but I don't think we should be encouraging edits to low traffic pages like most of these page wiki pages would be. The chance of stagnant, invalid information isn't worth it so I think we should drop it.
June 08, 2015
On 6/8/15 2:23 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 05:16:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> The click rate on the "Page wiki" buttons linking to one wiki page per
>> phobos page seems to be 0%.
>
> Wait, how do you know this?

I think they call that "rampant speculation".

>> Any significant wiki pages in existence? -- Andrei
>
> There were quite a few on the old wiki (which doesn't matter any more
> since the information is outdated). Moving the website to GitHub lowered
> the contribution bar, so I agree these buttons are mostly obsolete. Even
> if there is content there, it is not very discoverable.

So what's the action item here?


Andrei

June 08, 2015
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 22:24:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> So what's the action item here?

Here are all the pages on the new wiki:

http://wiki.dlang.org/?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=DocComments&namespace=0

It looks like people have been using the wiki as a bug report system (and one not very effective at that).

Bugzilla allows creating bug report links with some fields pre-filled. How about we replace it such a link? Example:

https://issues.dlang.org/enter_bug.cgi?bug_file_loc=http%3A%2F%2Fdlang.org%2Fpage%2Fname%2Fhere&bug_severity=enhancement&component=websites&op_sys=All&priority=P3&product=D&rep_platform=All&short_desc=%5Bdlang.org%2Fpage%2Fname%2Fhere%5D&version=D2
June 08, 2015
On 6/8/15 3:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 22:24:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> So what's the action item here?
>
> Here are all the pages on the new wiki:
>
> http://wiki.dlang.org/?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=DocComments&namespace=0
>
>
> It looks like people have been using the wiki as a bug report system
> (and one not very effective at that).
>
> Bugzilla allows creating bug report links with some fields pre-filled.
> How about we replace it such a link? Example:
>
> https://issues.dlang.org/enter_bug.cgi?bug_file_loc=http%3A%2F%2Fdlang.org%2Fpage%2Fname%2Fhere&bug_severity=enhancement&component=websites&op_sys=All&priority=P3&product=D&rep_platform=All&short_desc=%5Bdlang.org%2Fpage%2Fname%2Fhere%5D&version=D2

Yes, I LOVE "Report a bug". Can you please make it so! -- Andrei

June 09, 2015
On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 23:28:33 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Yes, I LOVE "Report a bug". Can you please make it so! -- Andrei

https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1013

If someone from the compiler team could look at https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14668 , we could also prepopulate the "URL" field.