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June 08, 2015 Looking to remove the "Page wiki" buttons | ||||
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The click rate on the "Page wiki" buttons linking to one wiki page per phobos page seems to be 0%. Any significant wiki pages in existence? -- Andrei | ||||
June 08, 2015 Re: Looking to remove the "Page wiki" buttons | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 05:16:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > The click rate on the "Page wiki" buttons linking to one wiki page per phobos page seems to be 0%. Wait, how do you know this? > Any significant wiki pages in existence? -- Andrei There were quite a few on the old wiki (which doesn't matter any more since the information is outdated). Moving the website to GitHub lowered the contribution bar, so I agree these buttons are mostly obsolete. Even if there is content there, it is not very discoverable. | |||
June 08, 2015 Re: Looking to remove the "Page wiki" buttons | ||||
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Posted in reply to Vladimir Panteleev | On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 21:23:02 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 05:16:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> The click rate on the "Page wiki" buttons linking to one wiki page per phobos page seems to be 0%.
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> Wait, how do you know this?
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>> Any significant wiki pages in existence? -- Andrei
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> There were quite a few on the old wiki (which doesn't matter any more since the information is outdated). Moving the website to GitHub lowered the contribution bar, so I agree these buttons are mostly obsolete. Even if there is content there, it is not very discoverable.
I imagine you could scrape the wiki access logs and check for when the referrer is dlang.org to see how much it's actually used. I suspect it's almost non-existent though.
When I added the Improve This Page button the goal was to make the website act like a moderated wiki. I didn't even know about the page wiki stuff until I went to implement that button. I suspect not many people realize it's there. The wiki is good but I don't think we should be encouraging edits to low traffic pages like most of these page wiki pages would be. The chance of stagnant, invalid information isn't worth it so I think we should drop it.
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June 08, 2015 Re: Looking to remove the "Page wiki" buttons | ||||
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Posted in reply to Vladimir Panteleev | On 6/8/15 2:23 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: > On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 05:16:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: >> The click rate on the "Page wiki" buttons linking to one wiki page per >> phobos page seems to be 0%. > > Wait, how do you know this? I think they call that "rampant speculation". >> Any significant wiki pages in existence? -- Andrei > > There were quite a few on the old wiki (which doesn't matter any more > since the information is outdated). Moving the website to GitHub lowered > the contribution bar, so I agree these buttons are mostly obsolete. Even > if there is content there, it is not very discoverable. So what's the action item here? Andrei | |||
June 08, 2015 Re: Looking to remove the "Page wiki" buttons | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 22:24:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > So what's the action item here? Here are all the pages on the new wiki: http://wiki.dlang.org/?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=DocComments&namespace=0 It looks like people have been using the wiki as a bug report system (and one not very effective at that). Bugzilla allows creating bug report links with some fields pre-filled. How about we replace it such a link? Example: https://issues.dlang.org/enter_bug.cgi?bug_file_loc=http%3A%2F%2Fdlang.org%2Fpage%2Fname%2Fhere&bug_severity=enhancement&component=websites&op_sys=All&priority=P3&product=D&rep_platform=All&short_desc=%5Bdlang.org%2Fpage%2Fname%2Fhere%5D&version=D2 | |||
June 08, 2015 Re: Looking to remove the "Page wiki" buttons | ||||
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Posted in reply to Vladimir Panteleev | On 6/8/15 3:54 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 22:24:24 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> So what's the action item here?
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> Here are all the pages on the new wiki:
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> http://wiki.dlang.org/?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=DocComments&namespace=0
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> It looks like people have been using the wiki as a bug report system
> (and one not very effective at that).
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> Bugzilla allows creating bug report links with some fields pre-filled.
> How about we replace it such a link? Example:
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> https://issues.dlang.org/enter_bug.cgi?bug_file_loc=http%3A%2F%2Fdlang.org%2Fpage%2Fname%2Fhere&bug_severity=enhancement&component=websites&op_sys=All&priority=P3&product=D&rep_platform=All&short_desc=%5Bdlang.org%2Fpage%2Fname%2Fhere%5D&version=D2
Yes, I LOVE "Report a bug". Can you please make it so! -- Andrei
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June 09, 2015 Re: Looking to remove the "Page wiki" buttons | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Monday, 8 June 2015 at 23:28:33 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > Yes, I LOVE "Report a bug". Can you please make it so! -- Andrei https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1013 If someone from the compiler team could look at https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14668 , we could also prepopulate the "URL" field. | |||
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