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Entice Designer 0.8.2 release
Apr 20, 2007
Chris Miller
Apr 20, 2007
Manfred Nowak
Apr 21, 2007
freeagle
Apr 22, 2007
Charlie
Apr 22, 2007
freeagle
Apr 22, 2007
Justin C Calvarese
Apr 22, 2007
Lectus
Apr 23, 2007
Clay Smith
Apr 23, 2007
Bill Baxter
Apr 23, 2007
Bill Baxter
Apr 23, 2007
Daniel Keep
Apr 24, 2007
Saaa
Apr 24, 2007
Daniel Keep
Apr 24, 2007
Saaa
Re: [OT] Vista (was: Entice Designer 0.8.2 release)
Apr 24, 2007
Daniel Keep
Re: [OT] Vista
Apr 24, 2007
Bruno Medeiros
Apr 25, 2007
Daniel Keep
Apr 25, 2007
Bruno Medeiros
Apr 25, 2007
Saaa
Apr 24, 2007
Bill Baxter
Apr 24, 2007
Saaa
Apr 24, 2007
Bill Baxter
Apr 24, 2007
Saaa
Apr 24, 2007
Don Clugston
Apr 24, 2007
Mike Parker
Apr 24, 2007
John Reimer
Apr 24, 2007
Mike Parker
Apr 24, 2007
Sean Kelly
Re: [OT] Vista, (was: Entice Designer 0.8.2 release)
Apr 24, 2007
Saaa
Re: [OT] Vista,
Apr 24, 2007
Sean Kelly
Apr 24, 2007
Saaa
Apr 24, 2007
Sean Kelly
Apr 24, 2007
Saaa
Apr 24, 2007
Saaa
OT: Ubuntu (was: Entice Designer 0.8.2 release)
Apr 30, 2007
Jan Claeys
Re: Ubuntu (was: Entice Designer 0.8.2 release)
May 01, 2007
Saaa
Re: OT: Ubuntu (was: Entice Designer 0.8.2 release)
May 05, 2007
Jan Claeys
May 10, 2007
Saaa
Apr 24, 2007
Charlie
Apr 25, 2007
Rioshin an'Harthen
Re:[OT] Vista (was: Entice Designer 0.8.2 release)
Apr 24, 2007
Mark Wrenn
Re: [OT] Vista
Apr 24, 2007
Sean Kelly
Apr 24, 2007
BCS
April 20, 2007
Entice Designer is moving towards becoming an IDE, as well as a GUI builder, in version 0.8.2. Now has multiple file management with file list and simple compile command. Note that this is just the beginning; expect more to follow!

For a list of features, screenshots and installer and zip downloads, visit http://www.dprogramming.com/entice.php

Major changes in version 0.8.2:
* Added ability to open multiple files.
* Plugin support with SDK and examples (early C interface).
* Toolbox disappears when not needed; increases code area.
* Added option to use spaces instead of tab characters for indentation.
* Added simplistic project and compile functionality.
* Bugs fixed.

http://www.dprogramming.com/entice.php


Notes:

The compile command is just an early placeholder, actually implemented as a plugin. Expect this feature to be replaced and improved. This plugin's source is also available.

The plugin interface is quite unfriendly because it is an early, unfinished design with C compatibility in mind. There will probably be a nice D wrapper for it in the future. There is at least some documentation for it and examples.

I have actually switched to Entice as my primary D editor now! This should ensure stability and force me to adhere to the quality and feature set I expect and desire from an editor.

As always, I'm open to suggestions. Feel free to contact me here, by e-mail, forum or IRC.

Also, a minor DFL update was released yesterday.

- Chris
April 20, 2007
Chris Miller wrote

> Entice Designer is moving towards becoming an IDE, as well as a GUI builder

Great. I like your style.

-manfred
April 21, 2007
I wasnt following DFL's nor Entice's development much, but I have to say it looks very good promissing. Keep up the good work! And Linux support would be really nice.... ;)

freeagle
April 22, 2007
DFL and Entice are really under-appreciated IMO , an awesome piece of work.  I look forward to using it in an upcoming commercial project!

( Also do you have plans to make the property control on the right side of Entice a component ? )

Thanks,
Charlie

Chris Miller wrote:
> Entice Designer is moving towards becoming an IDE, as well as a GUI builder, in version 0.8.2. Now has multiple file management with file list and simple compile command. Note that this is just the beginning; expect more to follow!
> 
> For a list of features, screenshots and installer and zip downloads, visit http://www.dprogramming.com/entice.php
> 
> Major changes in version 0.8.2:
> * Added ability to open multiple files.
> * Plugin support with SDK and examples (early C interface).
> * Toolbox disappears when not needed; increases code area.
> * Added option to use spaces instead of tab characters for indentation.
> * Added simplistic project and compile functionality.
> * Bugs fixed.
> 
> http://www.dprogramming.com/entice.php
> 
> 
> Notes:
> 
> The compile command is just an early placeholder, actually implemented as a plugin. Expect this feature to be replaced and improved. This plugin's source is also available.
> 
> The plugin interface is quite unfriendly because it is an early, unfinished design with C compatibility in mind. There will probably be a nice D wrapper for it in the future. There is at least some documentation for it and examples.
> 
> I have actually switched to Entice as my primary D editor now! This should ensure stability and force me to adhere to the quality and feature set I expect and desire from an editor.
> 
> As always, I'm open to suggestions. Feel free to contact me here, by e-mail, forum or IRC.
> 
> Also, a minor DFL update was released yesterday.
> 
> - Chris
April 22, 2007
Charlie wrote:
> DFL and Entice are really under-appreciated IMO , an awesome piece of work.

I think this is because the project is hosted at www.dprogramming.com. I'm not saying there's anything bad about it, but I think that first, and probably the last, stop for any beginning D programmer is www.dsource.org. That's why projects at dprogramming don't receive much attention.

freeagle
April 22, 2007
freeagle wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
>> DFL and Entice are really under-appreciated IMO , an awesome piece of work.
> 
> I think this is because the project is hosted at www.dprogramming.com. I'm not saying there's anything bad about it, but I think that first, and probably the last, stop for any beginning D programmer is www.dsource.org. That's why projects at dprogramming don't receive much attention.
> 
> freeagle

Well, it does have a dsource forum (http://www.dsource.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=39), but lack of exposure  might be part of its under-appreciation.

Also, I can't think of any other big projects that use DFL (other than Entice, of course) to add to its buzz. DWT (http://www.dsource.org/projects/dwt) has Poseidon (http://www.dsource.org/projects/poseidon) and rulesPlayer (http://www.dsource.org/projects/rulesplayer). And now Tioport (http://www.dsource.org/projects/tioport) is even been used to automatically create a DWT port. And Icequake uses DWT, too (http://iqk.sourceforge.net/).

But I agree that DFL is really cool. I haven't used DWT any yet (even though it's been in development for years, I haven't been in the mood to try it yet), but I have used DFL some and Entice is especially awesome!

If it were cross-platform, we might be able to get Walter is endorse it as the official GUI instead of DWT. ;)

-- 
jcc7
April 22, 2007
DFL is the best GUI toolkit for D.
And Entice is becoming a full featured IDE for D.
DFL/Entice are easy and powerful.
Do I need to say more?
If DFL becomes multi-platform it really should be the default GUI toolkit for D.

Thank you miller[] for your nice work!
The D community is happy to have a nice coder as you.
April 23, 2007
Justin C Calvarese wrote:
> freeagle wrote:
>> Charlie wrote:
>>> DFL and Entice are really under-appreciated IMO , an awesome piece of work.
>>
>> I think this is because the project is hosted at www.dprogramming.com. I'm not saying there's anything bad about it, but I think that first, and probably the last, stop for any beginning D programmer is www.dsource.org. That's why projects at dprogramming don't receive much attention.
>>
>> freeagle
> 
> Well, it does have a dsource forum (http://www.dsource.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=39), but lack of exposure  might be part of its under-appreciation.
> 
> Also, I can't think of any other big projects that use DFL (other than Entice, of course) to add to its buzz. DWT (http://www.dsource.org/projects/dwt) has Poseidon (http://www.dsource.org/projects/poseidon) and rulesPlayer (http://www.dsource.org/projects/rulesplayer). And now Tioport (http://www.dsource.org/projects/tioport) is even been used to automatically create a DWT port. And Icequake uses DWT, too (http://iqk.sourceforge.net/).
> 
> But I agree that DFL is really cool. I haven't used DWT any yet (even though it's been in development for years, I haven't been in the mood to try it yet), but I have used DFL some and Entice is especially awesome!
> 
> If it were cross-platform, we might be able to get Walter is endorse it as the official GUI instead of DWT. ;)
> 

I would like to see it cross platform, if possible. I think that would add a lot of new users to that project.

~ Clay
April 23, 2007
freeagle wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
>> DFL and Entice are really under-appreciated IMO , an awesome piece of work.
> 
> I think this is because the project is hosted at www.dprogramming.com. I'm not saying there's anything bad about it, but I think that first, and probably the last, stop for any beginning D programmer is www.dsource.org. That's why projects at dprogramming don't receive much attention.

It looks like a very nice project, but I think the fact that it's Windows-only is the reason for lack of widespread adoption.  Heck I'm a Windows-only user but I won't touch Windows-only libraries.  I value my own freedom to switch platforms at will too much, especially these days with Vista breathing uncomfortably down my neck.   I also value the ability to share with friends who don't use Windows.  So I never really gave DFL a second look.

--bb
April 23, 2007
Bill Baxter wrote:
> freeagle wrote:
>> Charlie wrote:
>>> DFL and Entice are really under-appreciated IMO , an awesome piece of work.
>>
>> I think this is because the project is hosted at www.dprogramming.com. I'm not saying there's anything bad about it, but I think that first, and probably the last, stop for any beginning D programmer is www.dsource.org. That's why projects at dprogramming don't receive much attention.
> 
> It looks like a very nice project, but I think the fact that it's Windows-only is the reason for lack of widespread adoption.  Heck I'm a Windows-only user but I won't touch Windows-only libraries.  I value my own freedom to switch platforms at will too much, especially these days with Vista breathing uncomfortably down my neck.   I also value the ability to share with friends who don't use Windows.  So I never really gave DFL a second look.
> 
> --bb

Wait, is DFL closed source?  I couldn't find the source anywhere.  That might be another reason for lack of popularity.

--bb
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