March 21, 2014
On 3/21/2014 11:23 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:18:05 -0400, Walter Bright <newshound2@digitalmars.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/21/2014 12:59 AM, monarch_dodra wrote:
>>> Ok. That's a fair point. So in that case, our function is pointing at "data",
>>> and is allowed to mutate it, and observe its state.
>>>
>>> Now, if *another* piece of code is doing the same thing at the same time
>>> (potentially mutating "data", does that still violate purity?
>>
>> A mutex essentially reads and writes a global flag, which other functions can
>> also read and write.
>>
>> That makes it NOT pure.
>
> No, that's not the case. A mutex does not write a global flag, it writes a
> shared flag. And the flag is passed into it.

Here's a litmus test you can use for purity. Consider:

    int foo() pure;
    {
	auto a = foo();
    }

Now, since 'a' is never used, we can delete the assignment, and since foo is pure, we can delete foo():

    {
    }

Is this program distinguishable from the former? If not, then foo() is not pure.

March 21, 2014
On Friday, 21 March 2014 at 19:19:06 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> Here's a litmus test you can use for purity. Consider:
>
>     int foo() pure;
>     {
> 	auto a = foo();
>     }
>
> Now, since 'a' is never used, we can delete the assignment, and since foo is pure, we can delete foo():
>
>     {
>     }
>
> Is this program distinguishable from the former? If not, then foo() is not pure.

Consider this:

int foo(int* pa) pure
{
    if (pa)
    {
        *pa = foo();
    }
}

This is also pure according to D's type system, but it fails your litmus test. This, however, passes:

int foo(immutable(int)* pa) pure
{
    pa = pfoo();
}

I think the case of a monitor is closer to the first example.
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