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July 25, 2018 Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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<vague> Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards. </vague> I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where? Thank you, Ali |
July 25, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ali Çehreli | On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 21:59:52 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: > <vague> > Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards. > </vague> > > I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where? > > Thank you, > Ali https://dlang.org/blog/2018/06/20/how-an-engineering-company-chose-to-migrate-to-d/ |
July 25, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Nicholas Wilson | On 07/25/2018 04:27 PM, Nicholas Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 21:59:52 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>> <vague>
>> Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards.
>> </vague>
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>> I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where?
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>> Thank you,
>> Ali
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> https://dlang.org/blog/2018/06/20/how-an-engineering-company-chose-to-migrate-to-d/
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Thanks but no. :) The article I'm looking for was specifically for comparing languages against each paragraph (point?) of a safety spec.
Ali
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July 26, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ali Çehreli | On Thursday, 26 July 2018 at 02:21:58 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
> On 07/25/2018 04:27 PM, Nicholas Wilson wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 21:59:52 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>>> <vague>
>>> Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards.
>>> </vague>
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>>> I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ali
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>> https://dlang.org/blog/2018/06/20/how-an-engineering-company-chose-to-migrate-to-d/
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> Thanks but no. :) The article I'm looking for was specifically for comparing languages against each paragraph (point?) of a safety spec.
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> Ali
Oh, I vaguely remember that too. I think it was the MISRA spec? Or was it JSF or something else? Can't quite remember, sorry.
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July 26, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ali Çehreli | On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 21:59:52 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: > <vague> > Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards. > </vague> > > I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where? > > Thank you, > Ali I remember reading this, but it was pascal instead of ada https://forum.dlang.org/thread/yzlzlmhshfhetmpxifaz@forum.dlang.org |
July 26, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ali Çehreli | On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 21:59:52 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: > <vague> > Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards. > </vague> > > I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where? > > Thank you, > Ali https://forum.dlang.org/post/yzlzlmhshfhetmpxifaz@forum.dlang.org |
July 26, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Francesco Mecca | On 07/26/2018 03:07 AM, Francesco Mecca wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 21:59:52 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>> <vague>
>> Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards.
>> </vague>
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>> I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where?
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>> Thank you,
>> Ali
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> I remember reading this, but it was pascal instead of ada
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> https://forum.dlang.org/thread/yzlzlmhshfhetmpxifaz@forum.dlang.org
That's it! :) And humans (or maybe just me) are fault machines: I was sure it had Ada in there. :/
Ali
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July 26, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ali Çehreli | On Thursday, 26 July 2018 at 17:08:50 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
> On 07/26/2018 03:07 AM, Francesco Mecca wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 21:59:52 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>>> <vague>
>>> Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards.
>>> </vague>
>>>
>>> I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ali
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>> I remember reading this, but it was pascal instead of ada
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>> https://forum.dlang.org/thread/yzlzlmhshfhetmpxifaz@forum.dlang.org
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> That's it! :) And humans (or maybe just me) are fault machines: I was sure it had Ada in there. :/
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> Ali
Me too, probably because the wikipedia article on the Steelman requirements mentions that Ada was specifically created to fulfill them. And that it succeeded and even went beyond them.
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July 27, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ali Çehreli | On Wednesday, 25 July 2018 at 21:59:52 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote: > <vague> > Somebody had posted an article here on how well different languages matched certain requirements of a certain coding safety standards. > </vague> > > I remember D was doing pretty well and I think Ada (or SPARK?) was included as well. What article? Where? > But you didn't meant https://dlang.org/blog/2018/06/20/how-an-engineering-company-chose-to-migrate-to-d/ This is about Pascal, Ada and D, but was heavily criticised because other languages were not considered after very early stage. |
July 27, 2018 Re: Looking for the article comparing D to Ada and others | ||||
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Posted in reply to Dominikus Dittes Scherkl | I had no idea of the DoD's Steelman requirements (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steelman_language_requirements) I found another documents that has the same table that was on the website listed in an earlier post. Here are the individual links: https://www.dwheeler.com/steelman/steeltab.htm http://jedbarber.id.au/steelman.html I thought it might be nice to combine those two tables in one below. D is really up there! |----------+----+---------+--------+-----+------------| | Language | No | Partial | Mostly | Yes | Mostly/Yes | |----------+----+---------+--------+-----+------------| | D | 7 | 15 | 25 | 66 | 81% | | Parasail | 11 | 6 | 11 | 85 | 85% | | Pascal | 19 | 16 | 11 | 67 | 69% | | Rust | 12 | 19 | 23 | 59 | 73% | |----------+----+---------+--------+-----+------------| | Ada | 3 | 5 | 11 | 94 | 93% | | C | 32 | 21 | 16 | 44 | 53% | | C++ | 19 | 17 | 23 | 54 | 68% | | Java | 20 | 12 | 22 | 59 | 72% | |----------+----+---------+--------+-----+------------| -- Sameer |
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