On Thursday, 25 October 2018 at 10:03:27 UTC, drug wrote:
> 25.10.2018 12:45, Adam Wilson пишет:
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>>> I'm part of the many who tried to build his own little GUI framework and finally gave up because a GUI framework requires many knowledge in many domain (i.e you want to to work on a GUI but you have to loose your time on learning how clipboard works on X...). It's time to move on. When you'll have finished the core (windowing, message loop) it will be time to build something serious on top. I think that something like the Lazarus widgetset system may work.
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>>> People just need to start working together. Talents are here but fragmented.
>> 
>> +1
>> 
> I'm agree too. I see a few people here who thinks like you. So probably all we need is just to start collaborating? For example create some working group here or there?

Me and Alphaglosined are often on IRC but maybe mail will be better until something start to live since there are probably many design choices to discuss, IRC is better for small simple issues. A niche news group here would be nice too and it was asked at least two times in the past.

We can make a GH organization too even if there's nothing to wok on so far.

On 25/10/2018 11:10 PM, Basile B. wrote:
>> I'm agree too. I see a few people here who thinks like you. So probably all we need is just to start collaborating? For example create some working group here or there?
> 
> Me and Alphaglosined are often on IRC but maybe mail will be better until something start to live since there are probably many design choices to discuss, IRC is better for small simple issues. A niche news group here would be nice too and it was asked at least two times in the past.
> 
> We can make a GH organization too even if there's nothing to wok on so far.

We already have one. Devisualization. I really need somebody to take ownership of the image library as I really just don't have passion for it.

Image: https://github.com/Devisualization/image
Windowing: https://github.com/Devisualization/spew

25.10.2018 13:10, Basile B. пишет:
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> Me and Alphaglosined are often on IRC but maybe mail will be better until something start to live since there are probably many design choices to discuss, IRC is better for small simple issues. A niche news group here would be nice too and it was asked at least two times in the past.
> 
> We can make a GH organization too even if there's nothing to wok on so far.

Probably the first thing to do is to find optimal place to share our thoughts. because there are so many way like irc, gh, discord, mail etc...

For me gh seems to be optimal because almost all of D developers use it.

On 25/10/2018 11:26 PM, drug wrote:
> 25.10.2018 13:10, Basile B. пишет:
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>> Me and Alphaglosined are often on IRC but maybe mail will be better until something start to live since there are probably many design choices to discuss, IRC is better for small simple issues. A niche news group here would be nice too and it was asked at least two times in the past.
>>
>> We can make a GH organization too even if there's nothing to wok on so far.
> 
> Probably the first thing to do is to find optimal place to share our thoughts. because there are so many way like irc, gh, discord, mail etc...
> 
> For me gh seems to be optimal because almost all of D developers use it.

https://github.com/Devisualization/workgroup

Done.

25.10.2018 13:21, rikki cattermole пишет:
> We already have one. Devisualization. I really need somebody to take ownership of the image library as I really just don't have passion for it.
> 
Sorry, but Devisualization isn't suitable because it's a one developer product. We need to start from scratch to discuss different variants and first of all establish a way to let different developer collaborate to create complex software.

On 25/10/2018 11:31 PM, drug wrote:
> 25.10.2018 13:21, rikki cattermole пишет:
>> We already have one. Devisualization. I really need somebody to take ownership of the image library as I really just don't have passion for it.
>>
> Sorry, but Devisualization isn't suitable because it's a one developer product. We need to start from scratch to discuss different variants and first of all establish a way to let different developer collaborate to create complex software.

No. If a better solution exists from which is in my repositories, then present it. There is no wall stopping this from happening except people's willingness to take ownership of problems.

25.10.2018 13:34, rikki cattermole пишет:
> No. If a better solution exists from which is in my repositories, then present it. There is no wall stopping this from happening except people's willingness to take ownership of problems.
> 

That the first example of importance of Basile phrase: "People just need to start working together". There is no need to force people do what you want. There is a need to start working together.

On 25/10/2018 11:40 PM, drug wrote:
> 25.10.2018 13:34, rikki cattermole пишет:
>> No. If a better solution exists from which is in my repositories, then present it. There is no wall stopping this from happening except people's willingness to take ownership of problems.
>>
> 
> That the first example of importance of Basile phrase: "People just need to start working together". There is no need to force people do what you want. There is a need to start working together.

Exactly.

I was offering full reign over those repositories to anybody who actually desired to work on it. If that meant deleting code and starting from scratch, then so be it. Even if my wording didn't quite make that clear enough, that was my intention.

On Thursday, 25 October 2018 at 10:40:11 UTC, drug wrote:
> 25.10.2018 13:34, rikki cattermole пишет:
>> No. If a better solution exists from which is in my repositories, then present it. There is no wall stopping this from happening except people's willingness to take ownership of problems.
>> 
>
> That the first example of importance of Basile phrase: "People just need to start working together". There is no need to force people do what you want. There is a need to start working together.

I agree to start on Alphaglosined org for SPEW and his other stuff. Repos are easily movable on GH. Unless there's a necessity to start windowing from scratch **again**.
Also we need the color module that was a PR for phobos.

25.10.2018 13:53, rikki cattermole пишет:
> I was offering full reign over those repositories to anybody who actually desired to work on it. If that meant deleting code and starting from scratch, then so be it. Even if my wording didn't quite make that clear enough, that was my intention.
Well, I do not want to continue specific work of other developer. Just because I have my own to complete. But I'd like to discuss with others how can we developing independent packages create consistent system to build gui and other graphics. And you just force others to take your point of view how it should be done. Of course I can't say for others but in my case it doesn't work.