On 18/06/2015 5:17 p.m., Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:01:42 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>> Actually I'm in agreement with Vladimir. NNTP as a backend system
>> works rather well. And personally I was quite surprised at this.
>
> BTW, here's a quick chart I made of how people post to this forum:
> http://dump.thecybershadow.net/fd29290682da8888489542fc3dc92409/00000179.png
>
>
> Although more than half of all posts come from the web interface, about
> 40% use other methods.

That's pretty cool!

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:35:31 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
> On 18/06/2015 4:25 p.m., Joakim wrote:
>> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:01:42 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>> I agree with Rikki that it'd be better to add features to the web forum
>> in a backward-compatible way, such as putting tag names in the titles or
>> using Markdown for the forum's markup, which is perfectly readable in
>> email.
>
> We're already doing it. Why not just make it easier? Also makes posts like this a thing of the past.

+1

Adding a "tag" field encourages tags to be used.

It would be particularly useful for me, as the [embedded] tag would probably become my favourite. ;)

... Oh, and a "Like" button (and no dislike button), please. -That works very well to encourage a good tone on the ARM Connected Community :)
(I think "Like" and "Me too" buttons would only make sense in the Web-interface).

On 6/17/2015 8:55 PM, Morbid.Obesity wrote:
> [...]

Please, a little more decorum would be appreciated.

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 07:24:34 UTC, Jens Bauer wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:35:31 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>> On 18/06/2015 4:25 p.m., Joakim wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:01:42 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>>> I agree with Rikki that it'd be better to add features to the web forum
>>> in a backward-compatible way, such as putting tag names in the titles or
>>> using Markdown for the forum's markup, which is perfectly readable in
>>> email.
>>
>> We're already doing it. Why not just make it easier? Also makes posts like this a thing of the past.
>
> +1
>
> Adding a "tag" field encourages tags to be used.
>
> It would be particularly useful for me, as the [embedded] tag would probably become my favourite. ;)
>
> ... Oh, and a "Like" button (and no dislike button), please. -That works very well to encourage a good tone on the ARM Connected Community :)
> (I think "Like" and "Me too" buttons would only make sense in the Web-interface).

+1

Replies with a +1 on a line by itself could also be considered a like, so non web-interface users can like as well.

Also it might be beneficial to show the most liked post near the top or have a link to it or something for D-learn so people can quickly see the answer.

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 05:17:22 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:01:42 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>> Actually I'm in agreement with Vladimir. NNTP as a backend system works rather well. And personally I was quite surprised at this.
>
> BTW, here's a quick chart I made of how people post to this forum:
> http://dump.thecybershadow.net/fd29290682da8888489542fc3dc92409/00000179.png
>
> Although more than half of all posts come from the web interface, about 40% use other methods.

What's included in Other? I didn't know there were other methods.

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 08:47:35 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 05:17:22 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> BTW, here's a quick chart I made of how people post to this forum:
>> http://dump.thecybershadow.net/fd29290682da8888489542fc3dc92409/00000179.png
>>
>> Although more than half of all posts come from the web interface, about 40% use other methods.
>
> What's included in Other? I didn't know there were other methods.

I think that's mostly NNTP clients which generate a message ID locally instead of using the one suggested by the server.

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 08:49:30 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 08:47:35 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
>> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 05:17:22 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>>> BTW, here's a quick chart I made of how people post to this forum:
>>> http://dump.thecybershadow.net/fd29290682da8888489542fc3dc92409/00000179.png
>>>
>>> Although more than half of all posts come from the web interface, about 40% use other methods.
>>
>> What's included in Other? I didn't know there were other methods.
>
> I think that's mostly NNTP clients which generate a message ID locally instead of using the one suggested by the server.

New forums looks much better compared to previous version and visually integrates very well into main website.
However, Morbid.Obesity raised some good points, although in a harsh manner - webforums and mailing lists are separate things, and if something looks like a webforum, it's expected to behave like a web-forum. Having forums that are just NNTP-frontend has some disadvantages, e.g. lack of moderation and unability to wipe awful offtopics like this: http://forum.dlang.org/thread/mlqla5$bq3$1@digitalmars.com

So... shouldn't be mailing lists separated to webforums? At least in theory?

Vladimir Panteleev, I know that it's unpleasant to see your project being criticized after so much work, so please don't get me wrong. Again, new forums are way better than previous. But they still have issues that looks like unresolveable without compatibility breakage.

---Anton Pastukhov aka tired_eyes

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 10:27:46 UTC, tired_eyes wrote:
> Having forums that are just NNTP-frontend has some disadvantages, e.g. lack of moderation and unability to wipe awful offtopics like this:

We can delete messages and ban users in extreme cases (e.g. outright spam).

> So... shouldn't be mailing lists separated to webforums? At least in theory?

Separating them would mean separating the community. Many people will not check both. Before forum.dlang.org, proposals to simply set up a phpBB instance for an official web forum were rejected on the simple basis that Walter Bright and other people from the core team would not use them, which would make them a lot less useful.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:12:46 +0000
Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com>
wrote:

> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 10:27:46 UTC, tired_eyes wrote:
> > Having forums that are just NNTP-frontend has some disadvantages, e.g. lack of moderation and unability to wipe awful offtopics like this:
> 
> We can delete messages and ban users in extreme cases (e.g. outright spam).
> 
> > So... shouldn't be mailing lists separated to webforums? At least in theory?
> 
> Separating them would mean separating the community.

Yep, that would be perfect ;-). Now when newbie comes to dlang and read a few post on forum, his impression must be something like WTF.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:41:27 +0200, Daniel Kozák via Digitalmars-d wrote:

> Yep, that would be perfect ;-). Now when newbie comes to dlang and read a few post on forum, his impression must be something like WTF.

so he shouldn't read "general". "D.learn" is newbie-friendly, one will usually get a warm start and alot of explanations here. and if one chooses to avoid "D.learn" 'cause "hey, i'm not a newb, i'm a K00L HAX0R!"... well, that was his own choice.