On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 11:41:42 UTC, Daniel Kozák wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:12:46 +0000
> Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 10:27:46 UTC, tired_eyes wrote:
>> > Having forums that are just NNTP-frontend has some disadvantages, e.g. lack of moderation and unability to wipe awful offtopics like this:
>> 
>> We can delete messages and ban users in extreme cases (e.g. outright spam).
>> 
>> > So... shouldn't be mailing lists separated to webforums? At least in theory?
>> 
>> Separating them would mean separating the community.
>
> Yep, that would be perfect ;-). Now when newbie comes to dlang and read a few post on forum, his impression must be something like WTF.

Although I absolutely understand reasons for the current state of things, topics similar to this one will appear in the future.

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 05:17:22 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> Although more than half of all posts come from the web interface, about 40% use other methods.

There's also people like me: when I got to post, I use the web interface (because the mailman gateway is so unbelievably bad), but I do all the reading on my own clients.

If I had to keep up with this through just the web interface, it would be impossible, web interfaces are just too hard to use.

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 12:45:09 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 05:17:22 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> Although more than half of all posts come from the web interface, about 40% use other methods.
>
> There's also people like me: when I got to post, I use the web interface (because the mailman gateway is so unbelievably bad), but I do all the reading on my own clients.

As far as I know, you are the only person who does this.

> If I had to keep up with this through just the web interface, it would be impossible, web interfaces are just too hard to use.

Do you mean in general (which I don't think is true), or do you have particular grievances that I might be able to address?

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 12:45:09 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> If I had to keep up with this through just the web interface, it would be impossible, web interfaces are just too hard to use.

I think it is quite ok, but maybe your needs are different since you write the weekly?

Anyway, I don't think the d.learn issue should be a big deal as being visible on sites like stackoverflow is essentially better for stable languages when you scale up.
(Although terribly confusing for non-stable languages.)

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:49:31 +0000, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 12:45:09 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
>> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 05:17:22 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>>> Although more than half of all posts come from the web interface, about 40% use other methods.
>>
>> There's also people like me: when I got to post, I use the web interface (because the mailman gateway is so unbelievably bad), but I do all the reading on my own clients.
> 
> As far as I know, you are the only person who does this.

no, i'm ocasionally posting from web too. and i'm planning to write my own client, with option "use web to post".

On 6/18/15 1:12 AM, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 07:24:34 UTC, Jens Bauer wrote:
>> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:35:31 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>>> On 18/06/2015 4:25 p.m., Joakim wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 04:01:42 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>>>> I agree with Rikki that it'd be better to add features to the web forum
>>>> in a backward-compatible way, such as putting tag names in the
>>>> titles or
>>>> using Markdown for the forum's markup, which is perfectly readable in
>>>> email.
>>>
>>> We're already doing it. Why not just make it easier? Also makes posts
>>> like this a thing of the past.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Adding a "tag" field encourages tags to be used.
>>
>> It would be particularly useful for me, as the [embedded] tag would
>> probably become my favourite. ;)
>>
>> ... Oh, and a "Like" button (and no dislike button), please. -That
>> works very well to encourage a good tone on the ARM Connected
>> Community :)
>> (I think "Like" and "Me too" buttons would only make sense in the
>> Web-interface).
>
> +1
>
> Replies with a +1 on a line by itself could also be considered a like,
> so non web-interface users can like as well.
>
> Also it might be beneficial to show the most liked post near the top or
> have a link to it or something for D-learn so people can quickly see the
> answer.

+1

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:12:03 +0000, Tofu Ninja wrote:

> +1
> 
> Replies with a +1 on a line by itself could also be considered a like, so non web-interface users can like as well.

-1.

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 12:49:33 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> Do you mean in general (which I don't think is true), or do you have particular grievances that I might be able to address?

You probably could address it, but the beauty of a distributed system is you don't have to since my stuff doesn't apply to everyone; my client has all the little bits I like which are probably different than what you like.

But the keyboard shortcuts don't match my habits and the real time update aren't noticeable enough for me, which makes following everything kinda hard - I like to skim things as they come in. (i've been toying with the idea of using the web notifications api more but i just prefer running my own programs anyway. Might be a cool feature for people who want it though, and it looks like you already have background updates of new things, probably would be just a couple dozen lines of javascript to add).

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:38:19 UTC, ketmar wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:12:03 +0000, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>
>> +1
>> 
>> Replies with a +1 on a line by itself could also be considered a like, so non web-interface users can like as well.
>
> -1.

:( why do you do this to me, it hurts *sniffle*

On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 18:45:16 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015 at 14:38:19 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:12:03 +0000, Tofu Ninja wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Replies with a +1 on a line by itself could also be considered a like, so non web-interface users can like as well.
>>
>> -1.
>
> :( why do you do this to me, it hurts *sniffle*

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