On Monday, 2 December 2024 at 06:05:09 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Sunday, December 1, 2024 10:27:29 PM MST Manu via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 13:41, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-announce <
>>
>> digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>> > On Monday, 2 December 2024 at 02:13:52 UTC, Manu wrote:
>> > > Cool story; I particularly loved the ~1000 emails I received overnight that I had to sift through the delete :P

Not sure what to tell you. I understand your annoyance, but I think its still
the right thing to do.

Tell you what, I'll buy you dinner at the next DConf I see you.

On a less happy note, did you check which phobos issues could be closed
before you deleted the emails ;-)

>> >
>> > Then you'll love the waaaay more you'll get from the dmd/druntime one.
>> >
>> > This is what email routing rules are for.
>>
>> Yeah, nar... I kinda reckon you need to find as way to suppress mailing out thousands of spam emails to every subscriber to the big database before clicking the go button? Maybe blanket-unsubscribe everyone from the old issue tracker before migrating? Just drop the whole subscriber table in the database...
>
> Well, you're making the assumption that no one would want these ...
> all of that sorted out. But such is life, I suppose.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis

On 02/12/2024 8:26 AM, Robert Schadek wrote:
> Earlier today I migrated the phobos' bugzilla issues from bugzilla to github https://github.com/dlang/phobos/issues
> 
> Next I'll move druntime and dmd (this year).
> 
> Sorry to taking so long.

Way to go Robert!

Gonna have to bring up about rights for handling tickets this month's meeting.

Bugzilla was very open in comparison.

On Monday, 2 December 2024 at 06:05:09 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Sunday, December 1, 2024 10:27:29 PM MST Manu via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>> [...]
>
> Well, you're making the assumption that no one would want these e-mails, which I very much doubt is valid. As a general rule, if someone doesn't want to be notified of changes to bugzilla issues that they reported or commented on, they can unsubscribe from them. And sure, this is potentially a lot of e-mails this time around, since all of the open bugs are being affected at once, but it's only going to be once, and it tells you something about which open issues you're currently subscribed to, which some people are going to be interested in.
>
> So, while I do think that it's perfectly understandable if you didn't want any of these e-mails, I don't agree that it would have been a good idea to simply not send them out to anyone.
>
> Though personally, now I have to go and figure out how I'm going to have to rework my filters to deal with the fact that we're going to now be using github issues instead. I don't even know what I'm going to be get e-mailed by default, and it wouldn't surprise me if I end up missing some stuff until I get all of that sorted out. But such is life, I suppose.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis

I think the complaint is about 1000+ emails, more than receiving any notification at all. For instance, if there were logic that if a user would receive more than ten emails, then there would be some kind of special aggregation for them such that they just get a single email listing all the issues, then I think that would resolve manu's complaint.

On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 16:06, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, December 1, 2024 10:27:29 PM MST Manu via
> Digitalmars-d-announce
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 13:41, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-announce <
> >
> > digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
> > > On Monday, 2 December 2024 at 02:13:52 UTC, Manu wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 05:40, Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> Earlier today I migrated the phobos' bugzilla issues from bugzilla to github https://github.com/dlang/phobos/issues
> > > >>
> > > >> Next I'll move druntime and dmd (this year).
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry to taking so long.
> > > >
> > > > Cool story; I particularly loved the ~1000 emails I received overnight that I had to sift through the delete :P
> > >
> > > Then you'll love the waaaay more you'll get from the dmd/druntime one.
> > >
> > > This is what email routing rules are for.
> >
> > Yeah, nar... I kinda reckon you need to find as way to suppress mailing
> out
> > thousands of spam emails to every subscriber to the big database before clicking the go button? Maybe blanket-unsubscribe everyone from the old issue tracker before migrating? Just drop the whole subscriber table in
> the
> > database...
>
> Well, you're making the assumption that no one would want these e-mails,
> which I very much doubt is valid. As a general rule, if someone doesn't
> want
> to be notified of changes to bugzilla issues that they reported or
> commented
> on, they can unsubscribe from them. And sure, this is potentially a lot of
> e-mails this time around, since all of the open bugs are being affected at
> once, but it's only going to be once, and it tells you something about
> which
> open issues you're currently subscribed to, which some people are going to
> be interested in.
>
> So, while I do think that it's perfectly understandable if you didn't want any of these e-mails, I don't agree that it would have been a good idea to simply not send them out to anyone.
>
> Though personally, now I have to go and figure out how I'm going to have to
> rework my filters to deal with the fact that we're going to now be using
> github issues instead. I don't even know what I'm going to be get e-mailed
> by default, and it wouldn't surprise me if I end up missing some stuff
> until
> I get all of that sorted out. But such is life, I suppose.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis


I received several hundred emails, and then had to spend ages deleting them
all... I couldn't select-all because they spanned like 10 pages, and I had
to de-select the real emails interleaved among them.
I'm gonna go way out there on the limb and say, I am completely confident
that nobody wants that.

Are you saying I didn't get an email for every bug migrated? Only my own
bugs? Certainly seemed like one for every bug in the database...
That's astonishing; I can't imagine how I've logged so many issues! (and
they're still open!)

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 at 06:46, Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 2 December 2024 at 05:27:29 UTC, Manu wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 13:41, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday, 2 December 2024 at 02:13:52 UTC, Manu wrote:
> >> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 05:40, Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Earlier today I migrated the phobos' bugzilla issues from bugzilla to github https://github.com/dlang/phobos/issues
> >> >>
> >> >> Next I'll move druntime and dmd (this year).
> >> >>
> >> >> Sorry to taking so long.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Cool story; I particularly loved the ~1000 emails I received overnight that I had to sift through the delete :P
> >>
> >> Then you'll love the waaaay more you'll get from the dmd/druntime one.
> >>
> >> This is what email routing rules are for.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, nar... I kinda reckon you need to find as way to suppress mailing out thousands of spam emails to every subscriber to the big database before clicking the go button? Maybe blanket-unsubscribe everyone from the old issue tracker before migrating? Just drop the whole subscriber table in the database...
>
> So not everyone had 1000 issues in the database. So for the guy who opened one issue 2 months ago, instead of never hearing from dlang again, he gets a note that he has to jump on GitHub and subscribe to the new issue.
>
> I searched for the appropriate text (not hard to find the common text) in my email and deleted all the messages in 30 seconds. You can do the same.
>
> -Steve
>
>

I had assumed everybody got the same flood of emails that I got... they did not look like they were 'mine'.

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 at 10:41, Manu <turkeyman@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are you saying I didn't get an email for every bug migrated? Only my own
> bugs? Certainly seemed like one for every bug in the database...
> That's astonishing; I can't imagine how I've logged so many issues! (and
> they're still open!)
>
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 at 06:46, Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, 2 December 2024 at 05:27:29 UTC, Manu wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 13:41, Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Monday, 2 December 2024 at 02:13:52 UTC, Manu wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 at 05:40, Robert Schadek via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Earlier today I migrated the phobos' bugzilla issues from bugzilla to github https://github.com/dlang/phobos/issues
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Next I'll move druntime and dmd (this year).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sorry to taking so long.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Cool story; I particularly loved the ~1000 emails I received overnight that I had to sift through the delete :P
>> >>
>> >> Then you'll love the waaaay more you'll get from the dmd/druntime one.
>> >>
>> >> This is what email routing rules are for.
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah, nar... I kinda reckon you need to find as way to suppress mailing out thousands of spam emails to every subscriber to the big database before clicking the go button? Maybe blanket-unsubscribe everyone from the old issue tracker before migrating? Just drop the whole subscriber table in the database...
>>
>> So not everyone had 1000 issues in the database. So for the guy who opened one issue 2 months ago, instead of never hearing from dlang again, he gets a note that he has to jump on GitHub and subscribe to the new issue.
>>
>> I searched for the appropriate text (not hard to find the common text) in my email and deleted all the messages in 30 seconds. You can do the same.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>