On 9/1/2011 1:09 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> Right, but then Walter says don't use bugzilla for code that hasn't been released yet.
>

Yeah, I said that, but I also mean use judgment.

On 9/1/2011 1:56 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
> Walter is wrong.


Resistance is useless.

From: "Walter Bright" <walter at digitalmars.com>
> On 9/1/2011 1:56 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
>> Walter is wrong.
> 
> 
> Resistance is useless.

It's also futile. Or so I've heard...

On 1 September 2011 08:06, Walter Bright <walter at digitalmars.com> wrote:
> I'm game.
>
> On 8/31/2011 9:37 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
>>
>> Well, there seemed to be some limited consensus 2 weeks ago that it might
>> be time for a beta, then the period of
>> extended brokenness. ?Now that we're back in a happy state, shall we?
>>
>> Anyone have a 'really must be fixed before the next release' list?
>>
>> As always, mine consists of the open regression bugs, but since I'm not
>> personally investing in fixing any of them, it's
>> poor form to gripe too much about them.

At least, I don't think we should do a release when there are open
regression bugs that we have valid pull requests for.
If the patches are rejected, we shouldn't block the release, but they
should at least be reviewed.
There are four in that category:

IMHO the most important one is bug 3797 (Regression 2.038). It generates bad code and has been reported 8 times. And it's been waiting a very long time for review. https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/96

This one, which is a collaboration involving yebblies and me (mostly
yebblies), fixes regression 5373 (Regression 2.051) and an ancient
bug:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/362

This one fixes regression 4953 (Regression 2.031) https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/269

This one fixes regression 6398 (Regression 2.054) https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/279

The only other concern I have is, is the "disable default constructor"/"nonNull" implementation stable enough for release?

On Friday, September 02, 2011 09:00:43 Don Clugston wrote:
> On 1 September 2011 08:06, Walter Bright <walter at digitalmars.com> wrote:
> > I'm game.
> > 
> > On 8/31/2011 9:37 PM, Brad Roberts wrote:
> >> Well, there seemed to be some limited consensus 2 weeks ago that it
> >> might be time for a beta, then the period of
> >> extended brokenness.  Now that we're back in a happy state, shall we?
> >> 
> >> Anyone have a 'really must be fixed before the next release' list?
> >> 
> >> As always, mine consists of the open regression bugs, but since I'm
> >> not
> >> personally investing in fixing any of them, it's
> >> poor form to gripe too much about them.
> 
> At least, I don't think we should do a release when there are open
> regression bugs that we have valid pull requests for.
> If the patches are rejected, we shouldn't block the release, but they
> should at least be reviewed.
> There are four in that category:
> 
> IMHO the most important one is bug 3797 (Regression 2.038). It generates bad code and has been reported 8 times. And it's been waiting a very long time for review. https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/96
> 
> This one, which is a collaboration involving yebblies and me (mostly
> yebblies), fixes regression 5373 (Regression 2.051) and an ancient
> bug:
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/362
> 
> This one fixes regression 4953 (Regression 2.031) https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/269
> 
> This one fixes regression 6398 (Regression 2.054) https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/279
> 
> The only other concern I have is, is the "disable default constructor"/"nonNull" implementation stable enough for release?

It's not a regression, but if

https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/345

is acceptable, then it would definitely improve Phobos' ability to deal with deprecated symbols and symbols which are scheduled for deprecation, which should fix some of the complaints from the last release (about messages informing users of impending deprecation). So, it would help make for a much more pleasant release, but it's not exactly necessary - particularly if we're in a hurry to release. It would be a definite improvement though.

- Jonathan M Davis

I think this is just the halt Walter left in verror...

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Steve Schveighoffer <schveiguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Has anyone seen this one?
>
> http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?art_group=digitalmars.D&article_id=143686 http://www.digitalmars.com/webnews/newsgroups.php?art_group=digitalmars.D&article_id=143687
>
> Might be nothing, but if it's legit, it should be fixed before releasing a beta.
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
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>> Cc:
>> Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 8:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [dmd-beta] Time for a new beta?
>>
>> Last time we got a bunch of regressions reported after the beta was out, so probably the sooner the better.
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On 9/2/2011 12:00 AM, Don Clugston wrote:
>
> The only other concern I have is, is the "disable default constructor"/"nonNull" implementation stable enough for release?
>

While there are still gaps in it, it doesn't break things.

On 9/2/2011 1:20 AM, Daniel Murphy wrote:
> I think this is just the halt Walter left in verror...

Vat ist you talking abvat?

https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/blob/master/src/mars.c#L178

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Walter Bright <walter at digitalmars.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 9/2/2011 1:20 AM, Daniel Murphy wrote:
>>
>> I think this is just the halt Walter left in verror...
>
> Vat ist you talking abvat?
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Introduced in https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/commit/1193f7828b444056c943742daae0a5ccf262272e ....

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Daniel Murphy <yebblies at gmail.com> wrote:
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/blob/master/src/mars.c#L178
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Walter Bright <walter at digitalmars.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/2/2011 1:20 AM, Daniel Murphy wrote:
>>>
>>> I think this is just the halt Walter left in verror...
>>
>> Vat ist you talking abvat?
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