Can I get more opinions on increasing the logo size on the website please.

See here for an example:
https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1227

Destroy!

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 16:26:33 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> Can I get more opinions on increasing the logo size on the website please.
>
> See here for an example:
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1227

It takes up a bit much vertical space. If you guys are going to create a new logo based on the old one, you probably should clear it with the original creator. On his website he has give us use rights for non-commercial use, but not rights to create derivative works...

Not being able to use it on commercial items (like t-shirts) is a bit restrictive, IMO.

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 16:26:33 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> Can I get more opinions on increasing the logo size on the website please.
>
> See here for an example:
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1227
>
> Destroy!

It's too big. I like the menu bar the size it is right now.

The new logo itself looks very nice, though.

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 16:26:33 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> Can I get more opinions on increasing the logo size on the website please.
>
> See here for an example:
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1227
>
> Destroy!

I like the big one, it looks more solid. But I would keep the small logo for small screen sizes (phones), since the top bar is to tall otherwise.

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 16:26:33 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> Can I get more opinions on increasing the logo size on the website please.
>
> See here for an example:
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1227
>
> Destroy!

I agree it's too tall in that PR.  Maybe go for a happy medium?  http://racket-lang.org/, https://golang.org/, and http://fsharp.org/ all have the same header height: about halfway between current dlang.org and your PR.

-Wyatt

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 16:26:33 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> Can I get more opinions on increasing the logo size on the website please.
>
> See here for an example:
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1227
>
> Destroy!

Making it big is more like a flat design, which is better IMO. But the rest of the page would also have to also be flat in design. Else a smaller version will be a good match with the current design.

By the way, the plain white color of the forum body really hurts my eyes. Why not the grey on the homepage?

On 10.02.2016 17:49, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
> If you guys are going to create a
> new logo based on the old one, you probably should clear it with the
> original creator. On his website he has give us use rights for
> non-commercial use, but not rights to create derivative works...

The new logo is not part of the pull request. It's already on the site. If there's a legal problem, we should probably revert that.

The exact text on the site of the original author [1] is

    COPYRIGHT © SUKIMASHITA 2006
    ALL FREE TO USE. ONLY SELLING THESE IMAGES IS PROHIBITED.

I'd understand that to allow derivative works, but disallow selling them. I'm not a lawyer, though.

If those terms don't allow us to mess with the logo, what kind of statement or license do we need from the author?


[1] http://media.sukimashita.com/d/

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 20:25:05 UTC, anonymous wrote:
> The exact text on the site of the original author [1] is
>
>     COPYRIGHT © SUKIMASHITA 2006
>     ALL FREE TO USE. ONLY SELLING THESE IMAGES IS PROHIBITED.
>
> I'd understand that to allow derivative works, but disallow selling them. I'm not a lawyer, though.

My understanding is that "use" means creating copies only. I does not say "modify". He is giving you the right to create copies. Then he puts in the single constrain that it cannot be exchanged for money. I don't think the constraint is granting additional rights.

Probably depends on your jurisdiction, but my understanding of the legislation in my country is that an artist has rights related to protecting his integrity as an artist. It is not uncommon that liberal creative licenses states that you are not allowed to use relate a derived work to the the original creators name... (or the opposite).

Like, if a historian wrote a book on 2WW, he probably doesn't want someone to create a derived work of it that is rewritten as a holocaust-denial and associate it with him.

Likewise, even if people buy/commission an artwork instalment (in my country), it is still illegal to modify or destroy it without contacting the artist.

> If those terms don't allow us to mess with the logo, what kind of statement or license do we need from the author?

Ask for a Creative Commons license?

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 16:26:33 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> Can I get more opinions on increasing the logo size on the website please.
>
> See here for an example:
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dlang.org/pull/1227
>
> Destroy!

I'd prefer this version but smaller. The current one with black borders is ugly for the new layout.

Bubba.

On Wednesday, 10 February 2016 at 20:25:05 UTC, anonymous wrote:
> ...
>     COPYRIGHT © SUKIMASHITA 2006
>     ALL FREE TO USE. ONLY SELLING THESE IMAGES IS PROHIBITED.
>
> I'd understand that to allow derivative works, but disallow selling them. I'm not a lawyer, though.
> ...

You're right, he would lose "IF" he tried to sue anyone. He was very clear when he said the only prohibited thing is selling, end case.

The "USE" is too generic for this case that It can be interpreted as modify, and again, he never said anything about that, but ONLY SELLING, again end case.

Even with music, you can make "remix" and distribute for free legally, but of course you can't sell.

Bubba.