Aarti_pl Wrote:

> Chris Miller pisze:
> > Hey, great news!
> > 
> > I talked to Walter, and after a few emails I got permission to distribute my strange little compiler toolchain "snapshots" to make it easier for you to install D and start working.  The general idea is to make it easier for people who are new to D to start coding.
> > 
> > My current snapshot (0.2.0) has a few goodies, such as Tango and DWT.
> > 
> > You can download the snapshot from my site here: http://www.fsdev.net/node/2
> > 
> > Feel free to contact me and ask for new goodies and things and I'll see what I can do.  It was a great learning experience for me, though personally I don't think it should have been that hard to get going.
> > 
> > Hope you like it!
> > 
> > NOTE: If the site acts slow or 404's you, try reloading the page a few times and it should work (don't ask me why!).  I'm on a DreamHost shared server, and someone's been a little bit of an SQL hog and has been clogging up our SQL server.  It hasn't been severe enough to me to complain, and it seems to be calming down.
> 
> It is not possible to download package to my computer. It seems that connection is dropped by your server in such a way that download manager (firefox default manager) thinks that everything was already downloaded.

Yeah, I'm fighting a really uphill battle against minimal system resources.  I appears that downloads were served through Drupal, which allowed for access checking.  However, I don't have anything I need to hide, so I've removed that part so now they're served through Apache, which shouldn't drop the connection.

> Such download results in zip file, which is e.g 5Mb, has .zip extension and is completely unusable (corrupted).
> 
> I tried several times (also with IE) without success.
> 
> If you just could fix this server issue, your package would be great help :-)

Yeah, I'm doing all I can to solve the server problem.  Someone else on my server cluster, or a group of others on my cluster, are really undergoing some terrific traffic.  I'm reading SQL queries on tables of less than 5 rows at 300+ ms, and page process times in excess of 1.7 seconds.

It does go down around 9:00 PST, so if it still won't work I'd try back then.

Hopefully DreamHost will flag my cluster for some rebalancing, since it is quite significant.  There's nothing I can do at this point outside of enabling as much caching as I can and hoping for the best.  It's already running as FastCGI and as an Apache Dispatch (which is supposed to give it more memory allowance from the DreamHost process killer - if not it'll have zero net effect).  There really isn't much I can do.

Chris Miller Wrote:

> Hey, great news!
> 
> ... I got permission to distribute my strange little compiler toolchain "snapshots" to make it easier for you to install D and start working. ...
> Feel free to contact me and ask for new goodies ...

OK - It would be wonderful if such a thing could be done for d version 2, which has some significant improvements over version 1.

It is already pretty easy to install version 1 with tango from existing stuff, but not nearly so easy to install version 2 (and Phobos, which is currently required :( )

cheers,
g.

glen worstell wrote:
> Chris Miller Wrote:
> 
>> Hey, great news!
>>
>> ... I got permission to distribute my strange little compiler toolchain "snapshots" to make it easier for you to install D and start working. ...
>> Feel free to contact me and ask for new goodies ...
> 
> OK - It would be wonderful if such a thing could be done for d version 2, which has some significant improvements over version 1.
> 
> It is already pretty easy to install version 1 with tango from existing stuff, but not nearly so easy to install version 2 (and Phobos, which is currently required :( )
> 
> cheers,
> g.
> 

All you need to do to install version 2 with Phobos, on Windows, is just download dmd and dmc, then unzip them to C: and put the bin directories on your PATH. Nothing to it.

glen worstell Wrote:

> Chris Miller Wrote:
> 
> > Hey, great news!
> > 
> > ... I got permission to distribute my strange little compiler toolchain "snapshots" to make it easier for you to install D and start working. ...
> > Feel free to contact me and ask for new goodies ...
> 
> OK - It would be wonderful if such a thing could be done for d version 2, which has some significant improvements over version 1.
> 
> It is already pretty easy to install version 1 with tango from existing stuff, but not nearly so easy to install version 2 (and Phobos, which is currently required :( )

For cutting down on time, I was referring specifically to getting a working build of DWT.  It's painful at best for me since it takes so long to compile, and I try real hard to make sure that the same compiler and libraries that make DWT are packaged with the end ZIP file.  If one thing doesn't work, I just start all over again (leaving nothing to chance!)

It's the sort of things that makes me think that someday I'll be able to replace myself with a small shell script.  ;-)



Yeah, I've already given D 2.0 a lot of thought, and I decided it wouldn't be wise for me to start doing that until D 2.0 has a final release.  And until a few friends come too: http://www.fsdev.net/milestone/DMD%20Snapshot%201.0

Note that my assumptions that those things could take a while are just my naïvete.  I have no clue how long that'll take, I just thought it'd be nice to time Snapshot 1.0 to happen at D 2.0.

I can give D 2.0 a go if you like, since there is an experimental D 2.0 branch of the Tango library I thought.  That could possibly make DWT on D 2.0 a reality, though I have no idea really (I'd have to go try it).