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April 21, 2015 DMD Copyright string | ||||
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I notice when you run dmd with no args, it will print: DMD64 D Compiler v2.067.0 Copyright (c) 1999-2014 by Digital Mars written by Walter Bright Surely that's meant to be 2015? Walter should prob fix that. Someone could steal D! |
April 22, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to Colin | "Colin" wrote in message news:sbafvqyzjweacrhwdpmo@forum.dlang.org... > I notice when you run dmd with no args, it will print: > DMD64 D Compiler v2.067.0 > Copyright (c) 1999-2014 by Digital Mars written by Walter Bright > > > Surely that's meant to be 2015? > Walter should prob fix that. Someone could steal D! That's not how copyright works. |
April 22, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to Daniel Murphy | On 22/04/15 04:42, Daniel Murphy wrote:
> "Colin" wrote in message news:sbafvqyzjweacrhwdpmo@forum.dlang.org...
>> I notice when you run dmd with no args, it will print:
>> DMD64 D Compiler v2.067.0
>> Copyright (c) 1999-2014 by Digital Mars written by Walter Bright
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>> Surely that's meant to be 2015?
>> Walter should prob fix that. Someone could steal D!
>
> That's not how copyright works.
Unfortunately, you are right. But that's only because the copyright system in the USA is completely broken.
It used to work like that. Works that carried no copyright notice used to be automatically public domain, and the copyright notice start would dictate when the a work of art would fall into the public domain, some 20 years later.
Under that law, the changes done in 2015 would fall into the public domain one year early, around 2034.
Except, as you pointed out, that's not how copyright now works. The copyright for DMD would only expire 95 years after Walter dies, regardless of what the copyright notice says.
Shachar
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April 22, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to Shachar Shemesh | On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 07:08:05 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Except, as you pointed out, that's not how copyright now works. The copyright for DMD would only expire 95 years after Walter dies, regardless of what the copyright notice says.
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> Shachar
something tells me it will be more than 95 years by the time Walter passes considering Mickey's copyright expires in 8 years : )
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April 22, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to weaselcat | On 2015-04-22 12:13 AM, weaselcat wrote:
> something tells me it will be more than 95 years by the time Walter
> passes considering Mickey's copyright expires in 8 years : )
Well, Mickey's copyright expires _again_ in 8 years...
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April 22, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to weaselcat | On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 07:13:09 UTC, weaselcat wrote: > On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 07:08:05 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote: >> Except, as you pointed out, that's not how copyright now works. The copyright for DMD would only expire 95 years after Walter dies, regardless of what the copyright notice says. >> >> Shachar > > something tells me it will be more than 95 years by the time Walter passes considering Mickey's copyright expires in 8 years : ) It is rather complex in the US... Mickey movies are covered by 95 years after creation, but D is covered by: «70 years after the death of author. If a work of corporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation, whichever expires first» https://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm |
April 22, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ola Fosheim Grøstad | On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 13:58:50 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
> On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 07:13:09 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 07:08:05 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
>>> Except, as you pointed out, that's not how copyright now works. The copyright for DMD would only expire 95 years after Walter dies, regardless of what the copyright notice says.
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>>> Shachar
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>> something tells me it will be more than 95 years by the time Walter passes considering Mickey's copyright expires in 8 years : )
>
> It is rather complex in the US... Mickey movies are covered by 95 years after creation, but D is covered by:
95 years after _publication_...
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April 22, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to Ola Fosheim Grøstad Attachments: | On Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:58:48 +0000, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
> On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 07:13:09 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 22 April 2015 at 07:08:05 UTC, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
>>> Except, as you pointed out, that's not how copyright now works. The copyright for DMD would only expire 95 years after Walter dies, regardless of what the copyright notice says.
>>>
>>> Shachar
>>
>> something tells me it will be more than 95 years by the time Walter passes considering Mickey's copyright expires in 8 years : )
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> It is rather complex in the US... Mickey movies are covered by 95 years after creation, but D is covered by:
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> «70 years after the death of author. If a work of corporate authorship,
> 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation,
> whichever expires first»
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> https://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm
insane numbers. i'd say that they should be divided at least by 10.
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April 22, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to Shachar Shemesh | On 4/22/15 3:08 AM, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> On 22/04/15 04:42, Daniel Murphy wrote:
>> "Colin" wrote in message news:sbafvqyzjweacrhwdpmo@forum.dlang.org...
>>> I notice when you run dmd with no args, it will print:
>>> DMD64 D Compiler v2.067.0
>>> Copyright (c) 1999-2014 by Digital Mars written by Walter Bright
>>>
>>>
>>> Surely that's meant to be 2015?
>>> Walter should prob fix that. Someone could steal D!
>>
>> That's not how copyright works.
>
> Unfortunately, you are right. But that's only because the copyright
> system in the USA is completely broken.
>
> It used to work like that. Works that carried no copyright notice used
> to be automatically public domain, and the copyright notice start would
> dictate when the a work of art would fall into the public domain, some
> 20 years later.
>
> Under that law, the changes done in 2015 would fall into the public
> domain one year early, around 2034.
Not really, the "changes" are derived works. Sure, maybe the changes could be public domain, but what is the point of using changes when you cannot use the base? In any case, I think there isn't any "gotcha" issues here, we simply update the date, and we're good.
-Steve
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April 26, 2015 Re: DMD Copyright string | ||||
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Posted in reply to Colin | On 4/21/2015 11:20 AM, Colin wrote: > Surely that's meant to be 2015? > Walter should prob fix that. Someone could steal D! All the replies, and no PRs. Sigh! https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/pull/4615 |
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