On 7/10/2011 1:11 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
> Were you using the same fonts in the browser as the PDF?

I've tried many different fonts in the browser, to no avail. And as an aside, the *DEFAULT* font in a browser should display very well. It doesn't; not in IE, not in FF.


> Personally, I've never
> had a problem reading the fonts in my browser versus PDF. What I really hate
> about PDF is that it doesn't flow and doesn't respect my viewing preferences --
> which is fine for printed paper, but sucks for reading on a myriad of devices.

Sure, but I use PDF's for printing and for presentations, for which it is well suited.

"Walter Bright" <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:ivdbdp$2cg7$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 7/10/2011 1:11 PM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
>> Were you using the same fonts in the browser as the PDF?
>
> I've tried many different fonts in the browser, to no avail. And as an aside, the *DEFAULT* font in a browser should display very well. It doesn't; not in IE, not in FF.
>

Always looked fine to me...

> I've tried many different fonts in the browser, to no avail. And as an
> aside, the *DEFAULT* font in a browser should display very well. It
> doesn't; not in IE, not in FF.

some fonts look very ugly in all browsers if you have switched off "font smoothing". eg. on windows this is the case if you have reduced or turned off all ui effects and disabled the "cleartype" subpixel rendering.


mirko

On 7/11/2011 1:22 AM, Mirko Pilger wrote:
> some fonts look very ugly in all browsers if you have switched off "font
> smoothing". eg. on windows this is the case if you have reduced or turned off
> all ui effects and disabled the "cleartype" subpixel rendering.

I've dinked around with those settings on IE and FF. Doesn't make much of any difference.

> I've dinked around with those settings on IE and FF. Doesn't make much
> of any difference.

i should have emphasized it better that i was talking about system settings.

for example on windows xp you can activate "cleartype" by right clicking the desktop-> properties-> appearance-> effects-> "use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts"-> clearType.

changing these settings will also effect font rendering in browsers.

mirko

On 7/11/2011 1:51 AM, Mirko Pilger wrote:
>> I've dinked around with those settings on IE and FF. Doesn't make much
>> of any difference.
>
> i should have emphasized it better that i was talking about system settings.
>
> for example on windows xp you can activate "cleartype" by right clicking the
> desktop-> properties-> appearance-> effects-> "use the following method to
> smooth edges of screen fonts"-> clearType.
>
> changing these settings will also effect font rendering in browsers.

Looking at my screen with a magnifying glass, it has no effect I can see on the browser fonts. With the larger fonts, the blockiness is quite obvious. Looking with a magnifying glass on the pdf display, and the improvement is pretty clear.

> Looking at my screen with a magnifying glass, it has no effect I can see on the browser fonts.

i've attached a png image to show how cleartype effects font rendering in google chrome on my system (windows xp professional sp3).

the example site is http://www.google.com/webfonts.

on the left side you see the render with cleartype turned off and on the other side it is turned on. the differences are clearly visible.

mirko

"Dmitry Olshansky" <dmitry.olsh@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ivce6f$kjj$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 09.07.2011 8:59, Jordi Sayol wrote:
>> Al 09/07/11 06:20, En/na Walter Bright ha escrit:
>>> Amazon has a kindle app for Windows which will display it, there's probably one for Linux too.
>>>
>> 'fbreader' properly handle 'dlangspec.mobi' on Ubuntu 11.04
>>
>> Best regards,
> You can also try this file conversion web service:
> http://www.convertfiles.com/
> saved me a whole lot of trouble in the past.
>
> -- 
> Dmitry Olshansky
>

I tried the convertfiles website. It converted the file to PDF but the Formatting went to pot... A lot of blank pages inserted.
I downloaded a free mobireader for Windows PC from here:

http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/ProductDetailsReader.asp


-=mike=- 

On 7/11/2011 3:15 AM, Mirko Pilger wrote:
>> Looking at my screen with a magnifying glass, it has no effect I can see
>> on the browser fonts.
>
> i've attached a png image to show how cleartype effects font rendering in google
> chrome on my system (windows xp professional sp3).
>
> the example site is http://www.google.com/webfonts.
>
> on the left side you see the render with cleartype turned off and on the other
> side it is turned on. the differences are clearly visible.
>
> mirko

So you're using Chrome, not IE!

> So you're using Chrome, not IE!

i wanted to show you an example how rendering looks with and without cleartype and help you identify the problem.

of the major browsers only safari has its own subpixel algorithm. all others based on webkit, gecko or trident engines depend on the cleartype technology for "font smoothing", whether they inherit the system display settings or overwrite them by default.

mirko