On 5/7/16 3:04 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Saturday, 7 May 2016 at 00:51:39 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> I've been to Watertown.
>
> Amazing!

Yes, my wife went for an interview there out of college :) The snow banks were like 6 feet high!

Of course, I'm pretty sure this was in the dead of winter, maybe February?

>
>> I'm pretty sure there will still be snow there in May...
>
> Oh, come on! It was actually pretty nice this week, we are in the 60's
> right now. Finally, April was kinda miserable.
>

;) I was joking of course, but I was still flabbergasted by the amount of snow that was there. Driving is interesting when you can't see around corners...

-Steve

P.S. if it were to be a serious consideration, I'm all for it!

On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 15:16:00 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
> On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 14:13:35 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> Also: we're talking about the DConf 2017 location. Please share any initial thoughts!
>>
>
> I think American east cost is a natural next location. Something like New York/Washington/Boston/Montréal .

Is Montreal considered an east coast city now? ;^)

Jokes aside, Boston would be my vote. By far my favourite American east coast city.

On Sat, 2016-05-07 at 01:04 +0000, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
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> 
> Oh, come on! It was actually pretty nice this week, we are in the 60's right now. Finally, April was kinda miserable.

But people die when it gets over 50.

Oh, of course, you are in the USA and are still using weird temperature scales, unlike the rest of the world. ;-)








PS Yes I do know UK still uses miles for road distances. Jokes can be made about that as well.

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On Fri, 2016-05-06 at 20:59 +0000, John Colvin via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 14:57:59 UTC, Chris wrote:
> > On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 14:53:15 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> > > [...]
> > 
> > Facebook have their European headquarters in Dublin. Maybe they'd be willing to sponsor DConf2017 (there are loads of other tech companies in Dublin). Flights from the U.S. to Ireland and back are very frequent.
> 
> Dublin has cheap direct flights from quite a few places in the US, as well as pretty much everywhere in europe.

Obviously I will suggest London, but I guess it is a non-starter. The obvious venue would be Skills Matter's CodeNode, but the cost of accommodation in London is horrifying, and commuting is a non-starter. Well except for me.

There are venues such as Coventry, the Techno Park has a great venue for up to about 200 people and fairly cheap and very local accommodation. (PyConUK has been using this venue for the last few years very successfully, it has only moved to Cardiff for a change and because of the problem of outgrowing the venue.)

I have done the Gatwick → Dublin → (Gatwick | Birmingham) a few times,
but on expenses so used taxis from Dublin airport to either Pearse
Street or E Wall Road – the hotels shall remain nameless.

What venue would be used in Dublin? I guess we could ask the PyConIE
folk what they do, one of the hotels I think.

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On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 14:13:35 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> The atmosphere here is great, and I'm curious how it feels for those who are watching remotely. Is the experience good? What can we do better?


There were some small issues. First there was no link to livestream on official dconf or dlang page (So it took some time to find this link on twitter). Another problem is with presentations. Because of video poor quality it was hard to see what is on slides. So it would be very helpful if there will be slides available for each of presentation before it starts.


> Also: we're talking about the DConf 2017 location. Please share any initial thoughts!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrei

I would prefer europe. Brno or Prague would be awesome.

On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 14:13:35 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> The atmosphere here is great, and I'm curious how it feels for those who are watching remotely. Is the experience good? What can we do better?
>
> Also: we're talking about the DConf 2017 location. Please share any initial thoughts!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrei

I was not able to watch live much. But the parts I did were OK. Audio was good enough, video I would have liked to be a bit better, but do-able. A very good idea to have the slides available upfront!

I watched the most in the made available streams afterwards. Easy to pick and select the topics of interest. IMO it is great to have the content available right after/during the current day.

The atmosphere was even noticeable in the video stream, for me at least. To me it seems like a really great and inspirational conference!

Location, personally doesn't matter much to me since I'm most probably not able to attend anyway. But maybe Japan/Korea?

Topics and niveau, you did not ask but will give my opinion anyway, the diversity is good, the level of the talks I saw were for people not to intemit with the language and its eco system possibly a bit to high / abstract. I don't know whether or not there is a specific group targeted by dconf but when one of its (main) purposes is to attract new people from other language- eco systems, then IMO there should be given a bit more thought on the content topics and niveau.
When this is not the purpose then its all fine.

About attracting people to D, my experience is that beside the language zealots which will never change to different language eco system, most developers do not look around and select the best tools for the job at hand, they just look back into to their experience-toolbox and start solving the problem using the tools and technologies their familiar with, even though better tools are readily available. IMO D offers for a lot, a near perfect fit for a lot of problems, but fails in 'marketing' department. Most professionals I met never heard of D or never tried it (to much hassle). When they try it out it is not only the first 5 minutes, but the first project that matters. Most of them never finish that project in D....
Feedback I get:
- integration in tooling not good enough (VisualD is of help, but seems to fail)
- debugging problems(!!!)
- documentation for beginners not easy to find or follow.
- just to much of a hassle

I hope we can improve on this.

Arjan

On 5/7/16 2:47 PM, Arjan wrote:
> On Friday, 6 May 2016 at 14:13:35 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> The atmosphere here is great, and I'm curious how it feels for those
>> who are watching remotely. Is the experience good? What can we do better?
>>
>> Also: we're talking about the DConf 2017 location. Please share any
>> initial thoughts!
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andrei
>
> I was not able to watch live much. But the parts I did were OK. Audio
> was good enough, video I would have liked to be a bit better, but
> do-able. A very good idea to have the slides available upfront!
>
> I watched the most in the made available streams afterwards. Easy to
> pick and select the topics of interest. IMO it is great to have the
> content available right after/during the current day.
[snip]

Thanks very much! -- Andrei

On Saturday, 7 May 2016 at 07:29:28 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> Oh, of course, you are in the USA and are still using weird temperature scales, unlike the rest of the world. ;-)

I really don't understand the appeal of the Celsius scale. Zero degrees Celsius is like "put on a light sweater". That's not what zero should mean! Zero degrees Fahrenheit, on the other hand, means your nose freezes shut instantly upon exposure. Now *that* is worthy of the number zero.

(Zero Kelvin is a hardcore zero, but it is just too rare in everyday life to be interesting.)

On 5/7/16 3:54 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Saturday, 7 May 2016 at 07:29:28 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
>> Oh, of course, you are in the USA and are still using weird
>> temperature scales, unlike the rest of the world. ;-)
>
> I really don't understand the appeal of the Celsius scale. Zero degrees
> Celsius is like "put on a light sweater". That's not what zero should
> mean! Zero degrees Fahrenheit, on the other hand, means your nose
> freezes shut instantly upon exposure. Now *that* is worthy of the number
> zero.
>
> (Zero Kelvin is a hardcore zero, but it is just too rare in everyday
> life to be interesting.)

Please curb off-topic discussions and mark them with [OT], yadda yadda yadda. Thanks! -- Andrei

Dne 7.5.2016 v 14:54 Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d napsal(a):

> On Saturday, 7 May 2016 at 07:29:28 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
>> Oh, of course, you are in the USA and are still using weird temperature scales, unlike the rest of the world. ;-)
>
> I really don't understand the appeal of the Celsius scale. Zero degrees Celsius is like "put on a light sweater". That's not what zero should mean! Zero degrees Fahrenheit, on the other hand, means your nose freezes shut instantly upon exposure. Now *that* is worthy of the number zero.
>
> (Zero Kelvin is a hardcore zero, but it is just too rare in everyday life to be interesting.)


Celsius scale make much more sense to me :). The zero is a point when water became an ice, so anything below zero means snow and anything above means rain :)