September 16, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Martin Nowak | Dlang on 4chan http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44196390/dlang |
September 16, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On 09/16/2014 07:32 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
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> I agree that C and D should be enough. Perhaps C++ and one more near the
> top (Ada, Fortran) would be good for context.
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> Who wants to do this? Isaac made his setup publicly available.
There was actually someone working on this a year ago or so, but I can't find the github project and don't remember who it was.
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September 16, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 17:32:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 9/16/14, 9:44 AM, Kagamin wrote:
>> I'd say, run the damned benchmark for C and D. C would setup performance
>> scale. What would be interesting is to see, how compiler switches affect
>> performance, especially assert vs release mode and bounds checking on/off.
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> I agree that C and D should be enough. Perhaps C++ and one more near the top (Ada, Fortran) would be good for context.
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> Who wants to do this? Isaac made his setup publicly available.
I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my commute :-) (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to work on OS X).
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September 16, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Anonymous | On 16.9.2014 20:07, Anonymous via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> Dlang on 4chan
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> http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44196390/dlang
Yeah, and the discussion is just in line with typical 4chan discussions :-)
A1) Andrei is fucking hot and he's not russian
A2) @A1: >Andrei will never be your husbando
Why bother living?
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September 16, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Martin Drasar | On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:21:08 UTC, Martin Drasar via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 16.9.2014 20:07, Anonymous via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> Dlang on 4chan
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>> http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44196390/dlang
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> Yeah, and the discussion is just in line with typical 4chan discussions :-)
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> A1) Andrei is fucking hot and he's not russian
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> A2) @A1: >Andrei will never be your husbando
> Why bother living?
Also:
A) GC bad! I can manage memory myself, and multithreading is
child's-play - people who use D must be slow and stupid...
*snort* Ok, you and your delusions of competence are excused
from the conversation now...
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September 16, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Martin Drasar | On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:21:08 UTC, Martin Drasar via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 16.9.2014 20:07, Anonymous via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> Dlang on 4chan
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>> http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/44196390/dlang
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> Yeah, and the discussion is just in line with typical 4chan discussions :-)
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> A1) Andrei is fucking hot and he's not russian
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> A2) @A1: >Andrei will never be your husbando
> Why bother living?
Those ones gave me a laugh.
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September 16, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Peter Alexander | On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:04:59 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote: -snip- > I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my commute :-) (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to work on OS X). It'll be interesting to see which linux stuff is missing: -- without libgtop2 you could still get cpu and elapsed times (but not resident memory or CPU load) -- without highlight you could still get gzip source code size (but the source would include comments and whitespace) When you have questions, please ask in the benchmarks game discussion forum -- http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/play.html#misc |
September 16, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Isaac Gouy | On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 22:26:48 UTC, Isaac Gouy wrote:
> On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 21:04:59 UTC, Peter Alexander wrote:
> -snip-
>> I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my commute :-) (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to work on OS X).
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> It'll be interesting to see which linux stuff is missing:
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> -- without libgtop2 you could still get cpu and elapsed times (but not resident memory or CPU load)
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> -- without highlight you could still get gzip source code size (but the source would include comments and whitespace)
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> When you have questions, please ask in the benchmarks game discussion forum -- http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/play.html#misc
Thanks Isaac.
I think we can live without the resident memory, CPU load, and source size for now. I'll focus on getting some CPU time benchmarks first.
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September 17, 2014 Re: Increasing D's visibility | ||||
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Posted in reply to Peter Alexander | On 9/16/14, 2:04 PM, Peter Alexander wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 September 2014 at 17:32:39 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: >> On 9/16/14, 9:44 AM, Kagamin wrote: >>> I'd say, run the damned benchmark for C and D. C would setup performance >>> scale. What would be interesting is to see, how compiler switches affect >>> performance, especially assert vs release mode and bounds checking >>> on/off. >> >> I agree that C and D should be enough. Perhaps C++ and one more near >> the top (Ada, Fortran) would be good for context. >> >> Who wants to do this? Isaac made his setup publicly available. > > I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my commute :-) > (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to work on OS X). Fantastic. Thanks! Created this just for you: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13487 Andrei |
September 17, 2014 Re: D (and Groovy) in the Benchmarks Game [was Increasing D's visibility] | ||||
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Posted in reply to Peter Alexander Attachments:
| On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 21:04 +0000, Peter Alexander via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] > I'll take a stab at it. Will give me something to do on my commute :-) (assuming his scripts work, or can be made to work on OS X). I started doing something similar for Groovy a while back (with @CompileStatic, Groovy should now be as fast as Java for all the benchmarks) but ran out of cycles and had to put it on the back burner. If I could track and chip in with a D variant, mayhap this will help get the Groovy/Java version back on track. I would run the codes on my ancient dual Xeon workstation, so slow for sequential but excellent for dealing with scaling issues. I could easily run D codes as well as the C, C++, Fortran, Java and Groovy ones. For D I would suggest C, C++ and Fortran as the comparison languages. Using the codes Isaac uses would seem entirely appropriate for this, then D is the only variable (other than the machine used for the tests). For the Groovy version my intention had been to use Isaac's C++ and Java as the comparison languages. I had always been intending to publish the results via my own server by adding an extra virtual address to my Apache instance, however if there is a possibility of joining forces with a D activity "in the Cloud", I'd be happy to do that. -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder |
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