On 12/1/2014 5:36 AM, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> Every single release since at least DMD 2.050 has broken DWT. Most of these
> issues were language changes and not renamed symbols in Phobos.

My experience with upgrading old D code, even D1 code, is that language changes were easier to deal with than Phobos changes. The reason is because we've done a fairly good job with compiler error messages that not only point out errors, but suggest corrective action.

On 11/29/14 8:09 AM, bearophile wrote:
> H. S. Teoh:
>
>> Huh??! I *really* don't know what you're talking about, because in the
>> last few months, I've seen a dramatic *increase* in Phobos activity.
>
> OK, if I was mistaken then I am happy ::) Sometimes it's good to be wrong.

Might be because my participation has been scarce lately (busy with work and family). I'll also be out at the YOW conference (http://yowconference.com.au), talking about D.

One interesting tidbit is that downloads have been rising sharply through mid-November, to have a bit of a pullback recently: http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

I wonder if there's some way to filter out robots, build machines etc. Ideas?


Andrei

On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 at 00:13:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
>
> I wonder if there's some way to filter out robots, build machines etc. Ideas?

The User-Agent header would be a good place to start.

On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 at 00:13:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> I wonder if there's some way to filter out robots, build machines etc. Ideas?

We should probably do something to identify all the downloads coming from Travis-CI and other CI solutions.

On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 at 00:13:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> One interesting tidbit is that downloads have been rising sharply through mid-November, to have a bit of a pullback recently: http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png

One note about this: I'm using D in my projects since last year, but I'm still using DMD version 2.060!

So what I think that would be nice is to find a way to measure the user base beyond the downloads.

But anyway nice to see the number of downloads are rising, I hope that means new users.

PS: Sorry my english!

Matheus.

On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 at 00:13:03 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 11/29/14 8:09 AM, bearophile wrote:
>> H. S. Teoh:
>>
>>> Huh??! I *really* don't know what you're talking about, because in the
>>> last few months, I've seen a dramatic *increase* in Phobos activity.
>>
>> OK, if I was mistaken then I am happy ::) Sometimes it's good to be wrong.
>
> Might be because my participation has been scarce lately (busy with work and family). I'll also be out at the YOW conference (http://yowconference.com.au), talking about D.
>
> One interesting tidbit is that downloads have been rising sharply through mid-November, to have a bit of a pullback recently: http://erdani.com/d/downloads.daily.png
>
> I wonder if there's some way to filter out robots, build machines etc. Ideas?
>
>
> Andrei

Just a thought but, its pretty close to end of year. Projects will be slowing down/stopping ext. People going on holiday. That also could screw the results a lot.

On 12/1/2014 6:19 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
> Just a thought but, its pretty close to end of year. Projects will be slowing
> down/stopping ext. People going on holiday. That also could screw the results a
> lot.

In many organizations, nothing happens from Thanksgiving to the New Years.

On 2/12/2014 3:26 p.m., Walter Bright wrote:
> On 12/1/2014 6:19 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>> Just a thought but, its pretty close to end of year. Projects will be
>> slowing
>> down/stopping ext. People going on holiday. That also could screw the
>> results a
>> lot.
>
> In many organizations, nothing happens from Thanksgiving to the New Years.

I guess things are a little different here in New Zealand, but then again different hemisphere.
E.g. we legally get Christmas day as a public holiday and schools already ended for the year.

On 12/01/2014 09:31 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
> On 2/12/2014 3:26 p.m., Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 12/1/2014 6:19 PM, Rikki Cattermole wrote:
>>> Just a thought but, its pretty close to end of year. Projects will be
>>> slowing
>>> down/stopping ext. People going on holiday. That also could screw the
>>> results a
>>> lot.
>>
>> In many organizations, nothing happens from Thanksgiving to the New Years.
> 
> I guess things are a little different here in New Zealand, but then again different hemisphere. E.g. we legally get Christmas day as a public holiday and schools already ended for the year.
People might "have work", doesn't mean that they get anything done...unless you're my university and decide to give a week of classes and then finals, as the only thing between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

-- 
Matt Soucy
http://msoucy.me/

On 2014-11-29 00:33, Walter Bright wrote:

> I fully understand how unfriendly this is to users and how discouraging
> it can be to have their recently working code shattered and scattered.
> We need to do a lot better.

When we're talking about breaking code, I just found this regression: https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13811

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg