On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 at 09:03:44 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 at 08:14:55 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
>> On Mon, 2015-03-02 at 23:00 +0000, CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>>> 
>> […]
>>> Yes, but I didn't see Rust, Nimrod, or Go on there, so I suppose we are on even footing with our main competition.
>>
>> It's called Nim now. I suspect there was a rationale for the change,
>> but I am not sure it was worth it.
>
> The rationale was that Nimrod has a fairly negative meaning attached to it in American(?) English. I'm not sure if it exists in other English dialects.

In Canada (were are about 1/2 way between the Brits + Americans) at least it was/is a derogatory term for someone who wasn't too bright. I always thought the name was a bit awkward because of that, and I should have remembered that they renamed it Nim.

On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 08:20:41 +0000, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> But this is funded either by GSoC or RH.

I don't think Fedora even requests money from GSoC itself anymore. Red Hat funding it makes sense though. And it's not like there aren't companies with 9+ zeros active in and aware of this community. And one notable one in particular has decent multipliers over even Red Hat's size. I see no reason why targeted GSoC-like things can't be organized by those companies besides a presumed lack of ROI.

--Ben

On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 at 08:37:11 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2015-03-02 20:39, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>
>> Google's Melange site is a disgrace, it is truly horrible. I suspect
>> it is something written by someone who is a failure as a Web
>> applications developer.
>
> Use that as a project for next year, rewrite the site in D and make it useable :)

That would require some serious chutzpah!  Are you volunteering
to mentor that?

It would almost be worth having our application rejected just to
have that in our list of projects ... just think of all the great
PR we could generate!

On 02/03/2015 23:00, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
> On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 22:36:43 UTC, weaselcat wrote:
>> On Monday, 2 March 2015 at 19:08:49 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
>>> Unfortunately our organizational proposal for the 2015 Google Summer
>>> of Code was rejected.  Thanks to everyone who helped out on this,
>>> especially to those who volunteered to mentor.
>>>
>>> I've asked Google to provide me with feedback, and I will post that
>>> here once/if I get something from them.
>>>
>>> If I am not asked to resign I am happy to volunteer for this post
>>> again next year. Hopefully I can learn something from this year and
>>> any feedback they provide.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Craig
>>
>> List of accepted projects
>> https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2015
>>
>> a lot of other languages got accepted :(
>
> Yes, but I didn't see Rust, Nimrod, or Go on there, so I suppose we are
> on even footing with our main competition.

Not just Rust, the whole Mozilla was not accepted either:
http://blog.queze.net/post/2015/03/03/Mozilla-not-accepted-for-Google-Summer-of-Code-2015

Interesting quote:
"People who have observed the list carefully may have noticed that there are fewer accepted organizations this year: 137 (down from 190 in 2014 and 177 in 2013). Other organizations that have participated successfully several times are also not in the 2015 list (eg. Linux Foundation, Tor, ...)."


-- 
Bruno Medeiros
https://twitter.com/brunodomedeiros

On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 13:32 +0000, CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> 
[…]
> I imagine you are correct.  I understand that Google can't take everyone, and they no doubt have some tough choices, so I don't feel that we have been unfairly treated in any way.  I am hoping though we can get some feedback so that next year's entry can be better though.

I am sure that in some sense many projects are treated unfairly, it is just a sort of arbitrary unfairness rather than any specifically targeted.

Clearly D satisfies the "is not a minuscule niche", "has reasonable mentors", "has projects", "is FOSS", and the fail of "could fund this some other way". My guess would be the "can be done in 8 weeks by a student" was seen as the problem for too many of the proposals.

It will be interesting to see if the total number of internships is smaller to match the decrease in organizations.

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On 2015-03-03 14:45, CraigDillabaugh wrote:

> That would require some serious chutzpah!  Are you volunteering
> to mentor that?

Not really. That was not completely serious proposal, hence the smiley. I would probably need to know vibe.d as well, which I don't.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg

On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 at 17:40:55 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> On 2015-03-03 14:45, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
>
>> That would require some serious chutzpah!  Are you volunteering
>> to mentor that?
>
> Not really. That was not completely serious proposal, hence the smiley. I would probably need to know vibe.d as well, which I don't.

I guess I should have added a smiley myself, I had figured as much.

I did get feedback from Google.  It was as follows:

======================================================================
Hi Craig,


We wanted your ideas page to be formatted in our preferred format and to have each idea fleshed out with potential mentors, difficulty level, required skills, etc. That would have helped. However, largely this was a matter of us just not having enough space to accept all the orgs we wanted to except. Good luck next year!

======================================================================

Sort of odd, since we had ideas listed with potential mentors, difficulty levels, and so forth ... feels sort of like a generic response again.

Maybe next year I will have to use <blink> tags on those parts of the list :o)

On 3/3/15 9:53 AM, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
> On Tuesday, 3 March 2015 at 17:40:55 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> On 2015-03-03 14:45, CraigDillabaugh wrote:
>>
>>> That would require some serious chutzpah!  Are you volunteering
>>> to mentor that?
>>
>> Not really. That was not completely serious proposal, hence the
>> smiley. I would probably need to know vibe.d as well, which I don't.
>
> I guess I should have added a smiley myself, I had figured as much.
>
> I did get feedback from Google.  It was as follows:
>
> ======================================================================
> Hi Craig,
>
>
> We wanted your ideas page to be formatted in our preferred format and to
> have each idea fleshed out with potential mentors, difficulty level,
> required skills, etc. That would have helped. However, largely this was
> a matter of us just not having enough space to accept all the orgs we
> wanted to except. Good luck next year!
>
> ======================================================================
>
> Sort of odd, since we had ideas listed with potential mentors,
> difficulty levels, and so forth ... feels sort of like a generic
> response again.
>
> Maybe next year I will have to use <blink> tags on those parts of the
> list :o)

Urgh. -- Andrei