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Posted in reply to Stjepan Zlodi | Stjepan Zlodi wrote:
> Victor Nakoryakov <nail-mail@mail.ru> wrote in
> news:e1ld45$24l8$1@digitaldaemon.com:
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>> Hm... I think bigger part of programmers use syntax highlighting in their editors, so numbers and identifiers have different colors. This
>> is sufficient to distinguish problem characters.
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> ...or you can use one of these fonts: http://www.lowing.org/fonts/
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This thread prompted me to find my ideal mono font, and I eventually landed on Anonymous.
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Posted in reply to Bruno Medeiros | On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:45:00 +1000, Bruno Medeiros <brunodomedeirosATgmail@SPAM.com> wrote: > Derek Parnell wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:41:30 +1000, Georg Wrede <georg@nospam.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> Let's put it this way: if a programmer insists on using a font where l, I, 1, O, 0, etc. have the slightest chance of looking like each other, then that programmer is not one we'd want in the D community. >>> >>> I promised Derek to not put down a certain programming language, but let's just say, that anyone with a history of C (or C++), can't in their worst nightmares, imagine using a font that doesn't make a difference between 0, O, 1, l, I,,, etc. >> ROTFLOL ... I went so far as to create a variety of Courier that changed the lowercase L to look like the lowercase T (t) but without the bar, and put a dot inside the Zero glyph to make it distinguishable. If anyone wants it just let me know. >> --Derek Parnell >> Melbourne, Australia > > Huh? Doesn't Courier New already distinguishes between the two? > ilIL0O -> all look different. To me, the lowercase L and digit one (l1) were too similar, and the uppercase O and zero were also too similar. I also made the vertical bar glyph more distinct from other things by making a small break in it. I guess is a personal thing. -- Derek Parnell Melbourne, Australia |
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Posted in reply to John C | John C wrote:
> It's just a shame Consolas isn't widely available yet (and requires ClearType to do it justice - which is fine by me, I can't stand looking at a screen without ClearType turned on anyway).
My eyes start hurting if I look at a screen _with_ ClearType turned on for too long. I suppose it's because it's designed for LCD screens and I've always used a CRT.
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Posted in reply to John C | John C wrote:
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> It's just a shame Consolas isn't widely available yet (and requires ClearType to do it justice - which is fine by me, I can't stand looking at a screen without ClearType turned on anyway).
ClearType looks like garbage on my screens. I have font smoothing set to "standard" in Windows.
I don't suppose there's a place this font can be downloaded?
Sean
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Posted in reply to Deewiant | Deewiant wrote:
> John C wrote:
>> It's just a shame Consolas isn't widely available yet (and requires
>> ClearType to do it justice - which is fine by me, I can't stand looking
>> at a screen without ClearType turned on anyway).
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> My eyes start hurting if I look at a screen _with_ ClearType turned on for too
> long. I suppose it's because it's designed for LCD screens and I've always used
> a CRT.
It doesn't even look good on all LCDs. Not sure why, but ClearType looks blurry on mine.
Sean
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Posted in reply to Stjepan Zlodi | Stjepan Zlodi wrote:
> Victor Nakoryakov <nail-mail@mail.ru> wrote in
> news:e1ld45$24l8$1@digitaldaemon.com:
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>> Hm... I think bigger part of programmers use syntax highlighting in their editors, so numbers and identifiers have different colors. This
>> is sufficient to distinguish problem characters.
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> ...or you can use one of these fonts: http://www.lowing.org/fonts/
Thanks for the link. It contains the first viable alternatives to courier than I've seen.
Sean
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Posted in reply to Derek Parnell | Have you tried using the Anonymous font. It seems to have been specifically designed for programming. It is free and can be downloaded from: Windows/Linux: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/Resources/AnonymousTT.zip Max: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/Resources/AnonymousTTMac.zip Derek Parnell wrote: >> Huh? Doesn't Courier New already distinguishes between the two? ilIL0O -> all look different. > > To me, the lowercase L and digit one (l1) were too similar, and the uppercase O and zero were also too similar. I also made the vertical bar glyph more distinct from other things by making a small break in it. I guess is a personal thing. > > > |
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Posted in reply to Sean Kelly | Sean Kelly wrote: > Deewiant wrote: > >> John C wrote: >> >>> It's just a shame Consolas isn't widely available yet (and requires >>> ClearType to do it justice - which is fine by me, I can't stand looking >>> at a screen without ClearType turned on anyway). >> >> >> My eyes start hurting if I look at a screen _with_ ClearType turned on for too >> long. I suppose it's because it's designed for LCD screens and I've always used >> a CRT. > > > It doesn't even look good on all LCDs. Not sure why, but ClearType looks blurry on mine. > > > Sean Have you got the ClearType tuning applet? It installs into the Windows Control Panel and allows you to fine-tune the sub-pixel rendering to make it sharper or softer. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypePowerToy.mspx There's also a third-party app that does a simlar job http://www.ioisland.com/cleartweak/ |
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Posted in reply to Sean Kelly | Sean Kelly wrote:
> John C wrote:
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>> It's just a shame Consolas isn't widely available yet (and requires ClearType to do it justice - which is fine by me, I can't stand looking at a screen without ClearType turned on anyway).
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> ClearType looks like garbage on my screens. I have font smoothing set to "standard" in Windows.
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> I don't suppose there's a place this font can be downloaded?
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> Sean
I'm sure googling for "download Consolas" would find a link pretty soon. But it's not been officially released.
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Posted in reply to John C | John C wrote:
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> Have you got the ClearType tuning applet? It installs into the Windows Control Panel and allows you to fine-tune the sub-pixel rendering to make it sharper or softer.
> http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypePowerToy.mspx
Thanks, that did help a bit. I'm still not entirely happy with it--there's just enough blur around the font edges from anti-aliasing that things look a tad off--but it's certainly better than before. I think I'll stick to 'standard' for now. Perhaps my next LCD will fare better. I do like the way text looks on Macs I've seen.
Sean
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