On 05/01/2024 5:19 PM, Jordan Wilson wrote:
> On Friday, 5 January 2024 at 02:57:43 UTC, Doigt wrote:
> 
>     Do keep in mind that the fork is just two people who have long been
>     angry and extreme in both how they express their anger at D and how
>     exaggerated their concerns are.
> 
> This is unfair to Adam, and does not characterise the vast majority of his contributions to the forums at all (yes, it appeared things escalated recently, and clearly there was some extreme frustration, as one could tell from his since-removed Boxing day post).

No. It is a very fair statement about both people.

It matches their statements and behavior over many years and over many different mediums.

This did not escalate quickly, it was intentional.

On Friday, 5 January 2024 at 04:26:33 UTC, Richard (Rikki) Andrew Cattermole wrote:
> On 05/01/2024 5:19 PM, Jordan Wilson wrote:
>> On Friday, 5 January 2024 at 02:57:43 UTC, Doigt wrote:
>> 
>>     Do keep in mind that the fork is just two people who have long been
>>     angry and extreme in both how they express their anger at D and how
>>     exaggerated their concerns are.
>> 
>> This is unfair to Adam, and does not characterise the vast majority of his contributions to the forums at all (yes, it appeared things escalated recently, and clearly there was some extreme frustration, as one could tell from his since-removed Boxing day post).
>
> No. It is a very fair statement about both people.
>
> It matches their statements and behavior over many years and over many different mediums.
>
> This did not escalate quickly, it was intentional.

This is off topic for both this thread and the forum. So let's please get back to the topic of making 2024 the year of D. Thanks!

On Friday, 5 January 2024 at 04:45:35 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
> This is off topic for both this thread and the forum. So let's please get back to the topic of making 2024 the year of D. Thanks!

Thank you for getting us back on track, Mike. What I was trying to say is that we shouldn't have to worry about the community splitting anytime soon; making this year the Year of D should be possible.

I have a 3 ideas in my mind that should help make this happen:

1) People should make contributions to D in the form docs and tutorials. If anyone's drawing blanks, I have a couple of fun project ideas that should be relatively simple to implement and be excellent learning tools such as:
* emulating real life social games (rock-paper-scissors, tic tac toe, nim, guessing a random number, hangman, etc.)
* recreating classic video games (pacman, tetris, space invaders, boulder dash, sokoban, etc.)
* making simple websites (url bookmarks, basic chat, image gallery, etc.)

2) People should talk about D and showcase it to colleagues/fellow students at their jobs/uni. I have been quite successful in the past in getting around a dozen interested in the language. (unfortunately, the lack of good and easily approachable examples/docs/tutorials turned them almost all of them away from the language)

3) People should write about their projects and not just inside the D community space but also outside. Livestream your coding sessions guys. Make youtube vids about them. Generate content.

I know it's not easy to find the time, motivation or editing/writing/oral skills to do those things I suggested, so don't hesitate to team up where it makes sense to do so.

On 1/6/2024 12:24 PM, Renato wrote:
> I think that something that needs urgent attention is documentation for dub. 

Trying to fix the documentation for a large project like dub can look like an overwhelming task, with the result that nothing happens.

A way that works is to decide just fix one detail, one that is underdocumented and you know how it should work. Don't think about fixing the rest of it. Just the one problem.

Submit a PR, get it merged.

Then another detail. And so on.

It's amazing how much progress one can make just by taking a small step at a time.

Sometimes with the dlang documentation, I simply open a random page, and start reading. I'll inevitably find a paragraph or example that is crummy, and submit a fix for it.

The same goes for improving a large code base.

On Saturday, 6 January 2024 at 21:49:56 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 1/6/2024 12:24 PM, Renato wrote:
>> I think that something that needs urgent attention is documentation for dub.
>
> Trying to fix the documentation for a large project like dub can look like an overwhelming task, with the result that nothing happens.
> [snip]

Conveniently enough there has been quite a bit of progress recently on improving the dub documentation. Still room for improvement, but it looks better than it did a year ago IMO.

On Saturday, 6 January 2024 at 03:18:03 UTC, Doigt wrote:
> I have a 3 ideas in my mind that should help make this happen:
>
> 1) People should make contributions to D in the form docs and tutorials. If anyone's drawing blanks, I have a couple of fun project ideas that should be relatively simple to implement and be excellent learning tools such as:
> * emulating real life social games (rock-paper-scissors, tic tac toe, nim, guessing a random number, hangman, etc.)
> * recreating classic video games (pacman, tetris, space invaders, boulder dash, sokoban, etc.)
> * making simple websites (url bookmarks, basic chat, image gallery, etc.)

I plan to launch a project this month that I have developed using the D programming language. I am considering publishing educational materials in this language to contribute and expand knowledge. After gaining some more experience in mobile app development, I intend to create a chat system, but for now, my focus will be on developing a web-based chat system.

On 1/6/2024 2:01 PM, jmh530 wrote:
> Conveniently enough there has been quite a bit of progress recently on improving the dub documentation. Still room for improvement, but it looks better than it did a year ago IMO.

Ehhxcellent!