On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 12:49:19 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote:
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Walter has said many time the logo is *not* changing.

On the off chance that the logo is authorised to be changed, I suggest we start a fundraiser to hire professional designers and maybe marketeers to re-brand and market D effectively.

On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 12:49:19 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote:
> I'd suggest a fresh look be introduced when the ref counting and GC work has been done,

Believe it or not i'm not opposed to this.

> and personally I'd suggest just a simple clean 2D metro-ish "D" as the "logo",

No. This is fashion. Hire a professional to do it and make long term usability a requirement. The 2d flat look will feel very old when the big boys (Microsoft, Apple) move on.

At the end of the day it's Walter's and Andrei's decision and it's not a decision to take lightly. Sometimes a new logo (and associated re-brand) can give you an energetic new direction on the other hand it can cause more issues with recognisability and market confusion.

On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 15:12:18 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 12:49:19 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote:
>> I'd suggest a fresh look be introduced when the ref counting and GC work has been done,
>
> Believe it or not i'm not opposed to this.
>
>> and personally I'd suggest just a simple clean 2D metro-ish "D" as the "logo",
>
> No. This is fashion. Hire a professional to do it and make long term usability a requirement. The 2d flat look will feel very old when the big boys (Microsoft, Apple) move on.
>

Yep it's certainly a fashion but is there really any escape from that? I agree that professionals will do a much better job than an amateur will.

> At the end of the day it's Walter's and Andrei's decision and it's not a decision to take lightly. Sometimes a new logo (and associated re-brand) can give you an energetic new direction on the other hand it can cause more issues with recognisability and market confusion.

Yes.

On Sunday, 12 April 2015 at 22:02:01 UTC, Barry Smith wrote:
> It's simple, but clean. Somewhat similar to the old one. Hope you like it.
>
> http://s2.postimg.org/m6qcfemhl/dlang.png
>
> Email me at barry.of.smith@gmail.com if you want the SVG version.

It is difficult to associate the letter D with planets or simple/flat/metro/minimalism designs of circles and planets.

Good try though...

On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:01:59 -0400, Barry Smith <barry.of.smith@gmail.com> wrote:

> It's simple, but clean. Somewhat similar to the old one. Hope you like it.
>
> http://s2.postimg.org/m6qcfemhl/dlang.png
>
> Email me at barry.of.smith@gmail.com if you want the SVG version.


D needs merit, not marketing.

Before 2.067, my biggest problem with D were the crappy error messages and compiler bugs. The latest release seems to have improved the situation immensely.

The next biggest things on my wish list are actually delivering on the "optional GC" promise, and support for mobile platforms. AFAIK, the former is possible as long as you're willing to tip-toe through a minefield, but not in any practical sense. And although the latter is already well underway, it is not officially supported.

On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 10:31:06 UTC, ixid wrote:
> On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 07:12:29 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
>> It does not matter if one knows this is planets or not (these aren't planet technically, but phobos and deimos, mars's moons).
>>
>> What does matter is that the logo is recognized and associated with D. Any logo change goes against that goal, so that's probably won't happen.
>
> Do you think anyone outside a tiny number of forum users would recognize the logo at this stage?

Yes. I'm fairly confident that more people know about the D logo than D itself.

On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 15:12:18 UTC, Gary Willoughby wrote:
> On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 12:49:19 UTC, Abdulhaq wrote:
>> I'd suggest a fresh look be introduced when the ref counting and GC work has been done,
>
> Believe it or not i'm not opposed to this.
>
>> and personally I'd suggest just a simple clean 2D metro-ish "D" as the "logo",
>
> No. This is fashion. Hire a professional to do it and make long term usability a requirement. The 2d flat look will feel very old when the big boys (Microsoft, Apple) move on.

I don't think any of the proposed logos have been better than the current one (which also works well as a tiny icon), but you could easily flatten the logo by just keeping the white symbol and put it on a black bar with the menu beneath as part of the current webpage upgrade. You could keep the red by making the tiny circle red.

The current image is a little bit "overdone" and so much red is "screaming".

Changing the outline of the logo without backing it up with a major language version announcement is rather pointless IMO.

On 4/13/2015 12:12 AM, deadalnix wrote:
> It does not matter if one knows this is planets or not (these aren't planet
> technically, but phobos and deimos, mars's moons).
>
> What does matter is that the logo is recognized and associated with D. Any logo
> change goes against that goal, so that's probably won't happen.

I appreciate the effort going into making a new logo, and it's always fun to do it and talk about it, but I like the existing one better (and I agree that constantly changing the logo is tantamount to not having one, making it pointless).

On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 18:56:45 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 4/13/2015 12:12 AM, deadalnix wrote:
>> It does not matter if one knows this is planets or not (these aren't planet
>> technically, but phobos and deimos, mars's moons).
>>
>> What does matter is that the logo is recognized and associated with D. Any logo
>> change goes against that goal, so that's probably won't happen.
>
> I appreciate the effort going into making a new logo, and it's always fun to do it and talk about it, but I like the existing one better (and I agree that constantly changing the logo is tantamount to not having one, making it pointless).

Well, I guess that's that then. The master has decided.

On 4/13/15 3:31 AM, ixid wrote:
> On Monday, 13 April 2015 at 07:12:29 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
>> It does not matter if one knows this is planets or not (these aren't
>> planet technically, but phobos and deimos, mars's moons).
>>
>> What does matter is that the logo is recognized and associated with D.
>> Any logo change goes against that goal, so that's probably won't happen.
>
> Do you think anyone outside a tiny number of forum users would recognize
> the logo at this stage?

Yes, it's on the site, which undergoes quite a few visits daily. Surprising details with my keynote at DConf 2015. -- Andrei