On 3 Jul 2014 20:45, "Alix Pexton via Digitalmars-d" < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
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> On 03/07/2014 6:38 PM, w0rp wrote:
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>> * Run it all with D to tick a "official D site made in D" checkbox.
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>
> The "powered by Python" banner gave me an idea...
>
> In a nod to Walter's self confessed petrol-headedness, I thought we could
incorporate the logo into a "D under the hood" or "D in the tank" banner for sites and software that utilise or run on D.
>
> Might be a bit over the top for dlang.org though ^^
>
> A...
>

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On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 07:46 +0100, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: […]
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@SarcasticRover is telling us "Do not come to Mars." Perhaps its
commentary need censoring ;-)

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On 4 Jul 2014 08:40, "Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d" < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 07:46 +0100, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: […]
> > Powered by Martian Technology
>
> @SarcasticRover is telling us "Do not come to Mars." Perhaps its commentary need censoring ;-)
>

Good advice that. :)

On Thursday, 3 July 2014 at 17:38:22 UTC, w0rp wrote:
> On Thursday, 3 July 2014 at 13:16:34 UTC, Chris wrote:
>> [I haven't had time to follow the entire thread, but] I like the design, it's a good starting point. Especially the integration of the logo. Nice and clean. (The current logo is just too bulky and clumsy, imo*)
>>
>> However, my experience tells me that we should wait with redesigning it until the technical issues/problems have been solved, e.g. the migration to vibe.d, which I'm in favor of (I've had good experiences with vibe.d so far), and the doc generation issue etc etc. Once that is out of the way, we can think about new designs.
>
> I've been focusing on getting a working site with vibe.d. Integrating the ddox document generator is a high priority for me right now, especially since I've finished a lot of work for formatting the changelog pages.
>
>> Yours is very nice and "modern". However, we also have to take mobile devices (tablets, smartphones) into account and see how we can adapt to these (different layouts or one for all?).
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> I used the Bootstrap framework, which I have also used in my day job. Bootstrap makes producing a responsive design pretty easy. I've been periodically testing pages on smaller screens. Firefox's 'reponsive design mode' helps a lot with this.
>
>> Another issue is that we don't have to jump on any bandwagon (every time the "fashion" changes), we can roll our own design, one that fits the community's and the language's needs, regardless of what is trendy or "modern" at any given time (don't imitate, innovate!).
>
> There are many different designs you could produce. Many design choices are subjective, though not all of them. I think my goals for the work I've been doing are as follows.
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> * Improve site navigation.
> * Improve display across different devices.
> * Improve the quality of text to make it easier to read.
> * Make it easier for newcomers to edit, to encourage contribution.
> * Run it all with D to tick a "official D site made in D" checkbox.
>
> There are others, but those are the important ones.

Very good. That would improve the page a lot.

The code block at the top of the page, I think we don't really need that for mobile devices with small screens. Takes up too much space. Maybe we could just hide it and have a button or so that says "show code".

I'd also recommend a page with simple recipes "how to open a file" etc. In this way newbies wouldn't have to go through the library reference for simple tasks.

I'd love to use something like "Powered by D" for my own programs written in D.

On Friday, 4 July 2014 at 07:39:51 UTC, Russel Winder via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 07:46 +0100, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> […]
>> Powered by Martian Technology
>
> @SarcasticRover is telling us "Do not come to Mars." Perhaps its
> commentary need censoring ;-)
> 

He also get angry when you mention that using the imperial system
is idiotic.

On 8 July 2014 21:20, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 4 July 2014 at 07:39:51 UTC, Russel Winder via
>
> Digitalmars-d wrote:
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>> On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 07:46 +0100, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote: […]
>>>
>>> Powered by Martian Technology
>>
>>
>> @SarcasticRover is telling us "Do not come to Mars." Perhaps its commentary need censoring ;-)
>>
>
> He also get angry when you mention that using the imperial system is idiotic.

But the imperial system *isn't* idiotic. :o)

And everyone should drive on the left.

On 08/07/2014 10:01 PM, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> But the imperial system *isn't* idiotic. :o)

14 lbs is a stone? apart from that its fine ^^

>
> And everyone should drive on the left.
>

I drive in the middle, it works fine until I meet other road users.

A...

On Tuesday, 8 July 2014 at 21:01:46 UTC, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On 8 July 2014 21:20, deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
> <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, 4 July 2014 at 07:39:51 UTC, Russel Winder via
>>
>> Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2014-07-04 at 07:46 +0100, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>>> […]
>>>>
>>>> Powered by Martian Technology
>>>
>>>
>>> @SarcasticRover is telling us "Do not come to Mars." Perhaps its
>>> commentary need censoring ;-)
>>>
>>
>> He also get angry when you mention that using the imperial system
>> is idiotic.
>
> But the imperial system *isn't* idiotic. :o)
>
> And everyone should drive on the left.

Driving on the left goes back to the times when coaches (carriages) were still in use. This was to avoid that drivers would accidentally hit each other with their whips when a coach would come from the opposite direction. No joke. As regards cars, driving on the left is highly unintuitive for most people as the majority of drivers are right-handed. There is no ergonomic or technical reason why cars should drive on the left. In most parts of the world driving on the right was adopted from early on as it is more intuitive (for most people).

On 09/07/2014 12:36 PM, Chris wrote:
> On Tuesday, 8 July 2014 at 21:01:46 UTC, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d

>> And everyone should drive on the left.
>
> Driving on the left goes back to the times when coaches (carriages) were
> still in use. This was to avoid that drivers would accidentally hit each
> other with their whips when a coach would come from the opposite
> direction. No joke. As regards cars, driving on the left is highly
> unintuitive for most people as the majority of drivers are right-handed.
> There is no ergonomic or technical reason why cars should drive on the
> left. In most parts of the world driving on the right was adopted from
> early on as it is more intuitive (for most people).
>

Driving on the left actually originates from jousting. On a tilting yard each combatant rides on the right side and aims their lance across their body at the opponent in the lane on the left. When knights passed each other out on the roads, the would do so on the left side so show that they were not hostile. The whole of Europe took up this practice, and used to always ride, drive carts and march as a body of men on the left.

Then a chap called Napoleon came along and used a guerilla tactic to trick his enemy by marching on the right so that his troops looked like they were travelling in the opposite direction. Eventually driving on the wrong side became the norm for all the regions of Europe that Napoleon conquered, and it spread as a matter of practicality to adjacent regions over time. Napoleon was defeated by the English because this trick does not work at sea. The UK still drives on the correct side because there is no problem with having to swap sides when crossing land borders. It is also an act that commemorates that historic victory.

Or at least that is what I learned in school ^^

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On Wednesday, 9 July 2014 at 15:34:03 UTC, Alix Pexton wrote:
> On 09/07/2014 12:36 PM, Chris wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 8 July 2014 at 21:01:46 UTC, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d
>
>>> And everyone should drive on the left.
>>
>> Driving on the left goes back to the times when coaches (carriages) were
>> still in use. This was to avoid that drivers would accidentally hit each
>> other with their whips when a coach would come from the opposite
>> direction. No joke. As regards cars, driving on the left is highly
>> unintuitive for most people as the majority of drivers are right-handed.
>> There is no ergonomic or technical reason why cars should drive on the
>> left. In most parts of the world driving on the right was adopted from
>> early on as it is more intuitive (for most people).
>>
>
> Driving on the left actually originates from jousting. On a tilting yard each combatant rides on the right side and aims their lance across their body at the opponent in the lane on the left. When knights passed each other out on the roads, the would do so on the left side so show that they were not hostile. The whole of Europe took up this practice, and used to always ride, drive carts and march as a body of men on the left.
>
> Then a chap called Napoleon came along and used a guerilla tactic to trick his enemy by marching on the right so that his troops looked like they were travelling in the opposite direction. Eventually driving on the wrong side became the norm for all the regions of Europe that Napoleon conquered, and it spread as a matter of practicality to adjacent regions over time. Napoleon was defeated by the English because this trick does not work at sea. The UK still drives on the correct side because there is no problem with having to swap sides when crossing land borders. It is also an act that commemorates that historic victory.
>
> Or at least that is what I learned in school ^^
>
> A...

This sounds just like Imperial education. Very interesting how it equates Imperial practices with the "right" thing and the (continental) arch enemy with the "wrong" thing. By the way, there was a reason why combatant riders would ride on the right side on a tilting yard: they were right-handed. Just as it makes more sense to switch gears with the right hand and not with the (in most cases) weaker left hand.