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GDC Home Page and Hosting
Feb 02, 2005
Thomas Kuehne
Feb 02, 2005
Brad Anderson
Feb 03, 2005
David Friedman
Feb 03, 2005
Charles Hixson
Mar 20, 2005
Mark T
Mar 24, 2005
Dejan Lekic
Feb 02, 2005
J C Calvarese
Feb 02, 2005
Norbert Nemec
February 02, 2005
Last year some time, I wrote on this group:

> Maybe it's time for a new home page for GDC,
> with all the requirements and also binaries -
> Perhaps set up a project up at SourceForge ?

There's the RPMS for various Linux distributions,
a DMG disk image with PKG packages for Mac OS X,
and other things that could need some hosting...
(some hundred megs in disk space + the bandwidth)


This old project seems to need to die, as well:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/brightd/

Doesn't seem like http://www.opend.org has been
updated in years, either ? ("Latest News: 2002")


It's not exactly bringing in more people to D.
--anders
February 02, 2005
Anders F Björklund schrieb am Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:22:55 +0100:
| Last year some time, I wrote on this group:
|
|> Maybe it's time for a new home page for GDC,
|> with all the requirements and also binaries -
|> Perhaps set up a project up at SourceForge ?
|
|
| There's the RPMS for various Linux distributions,
| a DMG disk image with PKG packages for Mac OS X,
| and other things that could need some hosting...
| (some hundred megs in disk space + the bandwidth)
|
|
| This old project seems to need to die, as well:
| http://sourceforge.net/projects/brightd/

Andrew C. Oliver ?

| Doesn't seem like http://www.opend.org has been
| updated in years, either ? ("Latest News: 2002")

Jan Knepper ?

| It's not exactly bringing in more people to D.
| --anders

Let's sum up the current URLs.

http://home.earthlink.net/~dvdfrdmn/d/
David Friedman - GDC release snapshots

http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/gdc-0.10-3.nosrc.rpm
Anders F Björklund - RPMs

What we need is a focal point with:
- - lots of bandwith to waste (binary RPMS etc)
- - bug / RFE / patch tracker
- - a revision control system (e.g. Subversion) for the source code

Potential solutions:

1) http://developer.berlios.de/
PRO: supports Subversion and CVS
CON: no compiler farm aviable

2) http://sourceforge.net/
PRO: extensive compiler farm aviable
PRO: known throughout the universe ;)
CON: only CVS (quite unstable at times)

3) http://dsource.org/
PRO: the current center of open sourced D
CON: currently only Subversion ( Brad is working on Track integration)

Thomas
February 02, 2005
Thomas Kuehne wrote:
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> Anders F Björklund schrieb am Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:22:55 +0100:
> | Last year some time, I wrote on this group:
> |
> |> Maybe it's time for a new home page for GDC,
> |> with all the requirements and also binaries -
> |> Perhaps set up a project up at SourceForge ?
> |
> |
> | There's the RPMS for various Linux distributions,
> | a DMG disk image with PKG packages for Mac OS X,
> | and other things that could need some hosting...
> | (some hundred megs in disk space + the bandwidth)
> |
> |
> | This old project seems to need to die, as well:
> | http://sourceforge.net/projects/brightd/
> 
> Andrew C. Oliver ?
> 
> | Doesn't seem like http://www.opend.org has been
> | updated in years, either ? ("Latest News: 2002")
> 
> Jan Knepper ?
> 
> | It's not exactly bringing in more people to D.
> | --anders
> 
> Let's sum up the current URLs.
> 
> http://home.earthlink.net/~dvdfrdmn/d/
> David Friedman - GDC release snapshots
> 
> http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/gdc-0.10-3.nosrc.rpm
> Anders F Björklund - RPMs
> 
> What we need is a focal point with:
> - - lots of bandwith to waste (binary RPMS etc)
> - - bug / RFE / patch tracker
> - - a revision control system (e.g. Subversion) for the source code
> 
> Potential solutions:
> 
> 1) http://developer.berlios.de/
> PRO: supports Subversion and CVS
> CON: no compiler farm aviable
> 
> 2) http://sourceforge.net/
> PRO: extensive compiler farm aviable
> PRO: known throughout the universe ;)
> CON: only CVS (quite unstable at times)
> 
> 3) http://dsource.org/
> PRO: the current center of open sourced D
> CON: currently only Subversion ( Brad is working on Track integration)

CON: Bandwidth - my company is generously supplying it now, but won't if it affects the ability for people in our office to do work.  Other than mirroring, any ideas on how to deal with this?  Are there open-source friendly server farms out there for the downloads portion of dsource.org?

BA

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> Thomas
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February 02, 2005
Brad Anderson wrote:

>> Potential solutions:
>>
>> 1) http://developer.berlios.de/
>> PRO: supports Subversion and CVS
>> CON: no compiler farm aviable
>>
>> 2) http://sourceforge.net/
>> PRO: extensive compiler farm aviable
>> PRO: known throughout the universe ;)
>> CON: only CVS (quite unstable at times)
>>
>> 3) http://dsource.org/
>> PRO: the current center of open sourced D
>> CON: currently only Subversion ( Brad is working on Track integration)
> 
> CON: Bandwidth - my company is generously supplying it now, but won't if it affects the ability for people in our office to do work.  Other than mirroring, any ideas on how to deal with this?  Are there open-source friendly server farms out there for the downloads portion of dsource.org?

SourceForge has a mirror farm for the files you publish through them.
BerliOS act as mirror for several others, so I guess they have the BW.

So I guess that rules out dsource.org for serving any binary images.

A great way to serve such big files is with BitTorrent or other P2P...
Unless that's outlawed soon? Right after software patents kill OS. :-(

--anders
February 02, 2005
In article <4200CE94.5020600@kuehne.cn>, Thomas Kuehne says...
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>Anders F Björklund schrieb am Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:22:55 +0100:
>| Last year some time, I wrote on this group:
>|
>|> Maybe it's time for a new home page for GDC,
>|> with all the requirements and also binaries -
>|> Perhaps set up a project up at SourceForge ?
>|
>|
>| There's the RPMS for various Linux distributions,
>| a DMG disk image with PKG packages for Mac OS X,
>| and other things that could need some hosting...
>| (some hundred megs in disk space + the bandwidth)
>|
>|
>| This old project seems to need to die, as well:
>| http://sourceforge.net/projects/brightd/
>
>Andrew C. Oliver ?

If someone wants to take over that project for GDC purposes, I doubt Mr. Oliver or sourceforge would mind. You might try contacting him through his sourceforge e-mail.

>
>| Doesn't seem like http://www.opend.org has been
>| updated in years, either ? ("Latest News: 2002")

Right. It hasn't been updated at all.

>
>Jan Knepper ?

I think Mr. Knepper might be in charge of opend.org, but I never tried to contact him directly.

I did try contacting someone throught the comments form http://www.opend.org/Request.html to add an updated link to DIG, but I never received a response. (I guess I give up easily.)

jcc7
February 02, 2005
J C Calvarese wrote:

>>| Doesn't seem like http://www.opend.org has been
>>| updated in years, either ? ("Latest News: 2002")
> 
> Right. It hasn't been updated at all.
> 
>>
>>Jan Knepper ?
> 
> I think Mr. Knepper might be in charge of opend.org, but I never tried to contact him directly.

At least the domain is registered to him (check at http://www.internic.net/whois.html for his phone number and address)

> I did try contacting someone throught the comments form http://www.opend.org/Request.html to add an updated link to DIG, but I never received a response. (I guess I give up easily.)

February 03, 2005
Brad Anderson wrote:
> Thomas Kuehne wrote:
> 
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>> Anders F Björklund schrieb am Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:22:55 +0100:
>> | Last year some time, I wrote on this group:
>> |
>> |> Maybe it's time for a new home page for GDC,
>> |> with all the requirements and also binaries -
>> |> Perhaps set up a project up at SourceForge ?
>> |
>> |
>> | There's the RPMS for various Linux distributions,
>> | a DMG disk image with PKG packages for Mac OS X,
>> | and other things that could need some hosting...
>> | (some hundred megs in disk space + the bandwidth)
>> |
>> |
>> | This old project seems to need to die, as well:
>> | http://sourceforge.net/projects/brightd/
>>
>> Andrew C. Oliver ?
>>
>> | Doesn't seem like http://www.opend.org has been
>> | updated in years, either ? ("Latest News: 2002")
>>
>> Jan Knepper ?
>>
>> | It's not exactly bringing in more people to D.
>> | --anders
>>
>> Let's sum up the current URLs.
>>
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~dvdfrdmn/d/
>> David Friedman - GDC release snapshots
>>
>> http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/gdc-0.10-3.nosrc.rpm
>> Anders F Björklund - RPMs
>>
>> What we need is a focal point with:
>> - - lots of bandwith to waste (binary RPMS etc)
>> - - bug / RFE / patch tracker
>> - - a revision control system (e.g. Subversion) for the source code
>>
>> Potential solutions:
>>
>> 1) http://developer.berlios.de/
>> PRO: supports Subversion and CVS
>> CON: no compiler farm aviable
>>
>> 2) http://sourceforge.net/
>> PRO: extensive compiler farm aviable
>> PRO: known throughout the universe ;)
>> CON: only CVS (quite unstable at times)
>>
>> 3) http://dsource.org/
>> PRO: the current center of open sourced D
>> CON: currently only Subversion ( Brad is working on Track integration)
> 
> 
> CON: Bandwidth - my company is generously supplying it now, but won't if it affects the ability for people in our office to do work.  Other than mirroring, any ideas on how to deal with this?  Are there open-source friendly server farms out there for the downloads portion of dsource.org?
> 
> BA
> 

If that's the case, I would lean towards using SourceForge -- at least for binaries.

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>> Thomas
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February 03, 2005
David Friedman wrote:

>> CON: Bandwidth - my company is generously supplying it now, but won't if it affects the ability for people in our office to do work.  Other than mirroring, any ideas on how to deal with this?  Are there open-source friendly server farms out there for the downloads portion of dsource.org?
> 
> If that's the case, I would lean towards using SourceForge -- at least for binaries.

Unfortunately, "gdc" is taken by the GTK+ version of DC++,
but I guess the old "brightd" could be put to use - or a
brand new project started if necessary ? (I have 4 myself)

http://sourceforge.net/register/

--anders
February 03, 2005
Anders F Björklund wrote:
> David Friedman wrote:
> 
>>> CON: Bandwidth - my company is generously supplying it now, but won't if it affects the ability for people in our office to do work.  Other than mirroring, any ideas on how to deal with this?  Are there open-source friendly server farms out there for the downloads portion of dsource.org?
>>
>>
>> If that's the case, I would lean towards using SourceForge -- at least for binaries.
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, "gdc" is taken by the GTK+ version of DC++,
> but I guess the old "brightd" could be put to use - or a
> brand new project started if necessary ? (I have 4 myself)
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/register/
> 
> --anders
But the current owner doesn't seem to be using it (no activity during the most recent year).  Perhaps he would be amenable to a change?  (Well, unlikely, but if you are considering sourceforge, it should be investigated.)
February 04, 2005
Charles Hixson wrote:

>> Unfortunately, "gdc" is taken by the GTK+ version of DC++,
>> but I guess the old "brightd" could be put to use - or a
>> brand new project started if necessary ? (I have 4 myself)
> 
> But the current owner doesn't seem to be using it (no activity during the most recent year).  Perhaps he would be amenable to a change?  (Well, unlikely, but if you are considering sourceforge, it should be investigated.)

David's project, he gets to decide. My SourceForge alias is "afb".

--anders
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