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March 05, 2005
A Word to the Wise
When I stopped my participation in D about a year ago there were 
about 340 posts a week. This week there were 840 posts---an increase 
to about 250%.

Although the absolute quality of messages stayed the same, I see a 
need to disburden Walter from the necessity to read every post. How 
can we organize to fulfill the task of relieving Walter from reading 
every post with the aim to spare his time for the things really 
useful for the community?

-manfred
March 05, 2005
Re: A Word to the Wise
Why do you think Walter reads _every_ post? :)


Manfred Nowak wrote:
> When I stopped my participation in D about a year ago there were 
> about 340 posts a week. This week there were 840 posts---an increase 
> to about 250%.
> 
> Although the absolute quality of messages stayed the same, I see a 
> need to disburden Walter from the necessity to read every post. How 
> can we organize to fulfill the task of relieving Walter from reading 
> every post with the aim to spare his time for the things really 
> useful for the community?
> 
> -manfred
>
March 05, 2005
Re: A Word to the Wise
I wonder if it would be possible to get some sort of rating system and a 
way to filter critical/non-critical posts (like slashdot?)

Or change the newsgroup names again to...

d.D.walter : stuff you want him to read ;)
d.D.community: stuff the community can answer

Manfred Nowak wrote:
> When I stopped my participation in D about a year ago there were 
> about 340 posts a week. This week there were 840 posts---an increase 
> to about 250%.
> 
> Although the absolute quality of messages stayed the same, I see a 
> need to disburden Walter from the necessity to read every post. How 
> can we organize to fulfill the task of relieving Walter from reading 
> every post with the aim to spare his time for the things really 
> useful for the community?
> 
> -manfred
>
March 05, 2005
Re: A Word to the Wise
It is time to think about what messages do we submit, one-by-one personally...

But there is an other thing to concern.
When we do not have real issues (or not too much), it means D it getting
better, so it's a good sign.

Tamas Nagy


In article <d0ct70$16ds$1@digitaldaemon.com>, clayasaurus says...
>
>I wonder if it would be possible to get some sort of rating system and a 
>way to filter critical/non-critical posts (like slashdot?)
>
>Or change the newsgroup names again to...
>
>d.D.walter : stuff you want him to read ;)
>d.D.community: stuff the community can answer
>
>Manfred Nowak wrote:
>> When I stopped my participation in D about a year ago there were 
>> about 340 posts a week. This week there were 840 posts---an increase 
>> to about 250%.
>> 
>> Although the absolute quality of messages stayed the same, I see a 
>> need to disburden Walter from the necessity to read every post. How 
>> can we organize to fulfill the task of relieving Walter from reading 
>> every post with the aim to spare his time for the things really 
>> useful for the community?
>> 
>> -manfred
>>
March 06, 2005
Re: A Word to the Wise
In article <d0cg9i$q70$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Manfred Nowak says...
>
>When I stopped my participation in D about a year ago there were 
>about 340 posts a week. This week there were 840 posts---an increase 
>to about 250%.
>
>Although the absolute quality of messages stayed the same, I see a 
>need to disburden Walter from the necessity to read every post. How 
>can we organize to fulfill the task of relieving Walter from reading 
>every post with the aim to spare his time for the things really 
>useful for the community?
>
>-manfred
>

Idea: How about an automated digest of the newsgroup?

I envision something that posts results to the web and/or to the newsgroup
directly.  Kind of like a traffic report based on phrase and topic stats, with
the 'noise' filtered out.  That way, Walter (or anyone else really) can get an
overview of what's being talked about and then home in on what to read first.

If nothing else it would make prioritizing one's time in their newsreader a tad
easier.

Any takers? 

I figure that such a digest could coalesce data across threads of conversation
based on the frequency of non-noise words.  Then we could see a report like this
(just an example, these numbers aren't real):

DNG Traffic Report for the week of 2/28/05
Active Threads (in order of volume posts):
- "$ instead of length"
- ".NET not"
- "Does the GC ever perform a generational collect?"

By Phrase:
- "Version 1.0"  33 Posts
- "length"       21 Posts
- "CoW"          13 Posts 
- "TIOBE"        8 Posts
- "Euphoria"     7 Posts
- "Black Box"    3 Posts
- ".Net"         5 Posts
- "FAQ"          2 Posts

By Author:
<etc>

.. and so on.  The actual categories in the example aren't important, as I'm
sure the community, and Walter himself, may have feedback as to what would work
better.  The overall idea is to yield a map of the group that is more useful
than raw Google searches, yet more convienent than reading *every* post.   

Also I figure a technology like Bayesian Filtering, or other filtering/mining
techniques, might make this task reasonable. 

- EricAnderton at yahoo
March 07, 2005
Re: A Word to the Wise
A PEP like system ( http://www.python.org/peps/ ) to track suggestions and 
their arguments.

L.
March 07, 2005
Re: A Word to the Wise
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 14:38:43 +0000, Manfred Nowak wrote:

> When I stopped my participation in D about a year ago there were 
> about 340 posts a week. This week there were 840 posts---an increase 
> to about 250%.
> 
> Although the absolute quality of messages stayed the same, I see a 
> need to disburden Walter from the necessity to read every post. How 
> can we organize to fulfill the task of relieving Walter from reading 
> every post with the aim to spare his time for the things really 
> useful for the community?
> 
> -manfred

First we should know whats important to Walter.
I think it something like bug reports and feature suggestions, etc.

Then we should have a central location for those 
like a bug tracker and a wish list.

Then Walter should tell the group that the official 
way to get bug and suggestion into D is though the bug tracker /wish list.

I think the bug tracker/ wish list should let the D users 
rank the bugs/suggestions this rank can then be used
to make a priority list of the bug/suggestions.

I this way it is easy to see which is major or minor issues.

Some days ago I made a unofficial wish list for D
http://all-technology.com/eigenpolls/dwishlist/
Well, it does not scale to 100+ suggestion 
so it can only be used to show the concept.

But I think that it could be fun to write a 
bug/suggestion tracker with mango and friends.
March 10, 2005
Re: A Word to the Wise
zwang wrote:
> Why do you think Walter reads _every_ post? :)

He provably did a year or so ago. And not just a glimpse, he read them 
thoroughly.

-eye
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