"Carlos Santander" <csantander619@gmail.com> wrote in message news:d7qv92$1m4l$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Andrew Fedoniouk escribió:
>>
>> First: I've asked you and Walter many times here to
>> show real Java GUI application except of Eclipse.
>> SWT? Fine! But show please applications made on
>> this platform. Without, talks about porting
>> Java code and huge opportunities and doors in this area
>> are just one big puff.
>>
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> I don't know if SWT is that bad. I don't know much about GUI libraries besides a handful of them. The same could be said for libraries in general. I understand (it's not hard to do ;)) that there're good and bad libraries everywhere, but I'm all for options.
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> Nobody can know before hand if porting some library (good or bad) to D will produce the same library as before: maybe it'll get better, or it could get worse, but it can only be known after it's been done and tested. So, Andrew, while I respect your opinion as much as I respect everyone else's, I think it's good that more libraries are ported to D. They can come from anywhere, they can be old or new, they can be anything related, but we, the D programmers, need those libraries, and only using them we'll know if we stick to them or not.
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> One example: I still think DFL is the best D GUI library right now, but I don't use it because it's Windows only. I follow it, but that's it. Portability is very high in my book, so I have to look somewhere else. But that's me, somebody else will think different, and that's where options come handy.
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> I think the worst mistake we as human beings can make is to think that we have to make everybody think like we do, think that there's only one absolute truth. "Only Sith(s?) think in absolutes" ;)

Absolutely true.

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> -- 
> Carlos Santander Bernal

"Trevor Parscal" <trevorparscal@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d7r6se$1r76$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Andrew...
> *snip* I am forced to stop working on Harmonia today.
>
> We all have our own ideas for D man, but patience is allot more useful than giving up. But, if you have other projects that need attention, I do wish you good luck with them.
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> Between this and TZ, I am starting to think that this is the Drama programming language... :) (c'mon, that's funny!)

:) Not a drama. No tragic at all.
Just real life, real projects, real situation.

Agreed, D is a nice language.
Overall concept is good.
Just couple of  design holes still open (exactly two in fact).
I wish they will be resolved. Hope D will not
loose moment of time. Wish also that
language design process will be a bit
predictable and open.
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For those who are interested: Pretty
soon Harmonia will be available in C++.
We are doing interesting projects
now so life is not ending. One of it might
follow to appear of OS of new generation
built on principles too far from existing ones.
Extremely interesting and *very real*
project, investors are eager and so on.
and D there was no.1 candidate....

Anyway...

For those who decided to use Harmonia/D
further: let me know - some help will be available -
at least I'll try to answer on questions.

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> I LOVE D!

Yep. Hope this love will be mutual ;)
otherwise it is a perversion.

PS: I'll double this message on
russian software developers network.
Many people were very exited there after my
postings. So I have to explain my position.
Meaning will be the same.