any comments from them?

Not that I know of.  But I get the impression that, for the most part, they do not have a high opinion of D.

-Craig

dennis luehring wrote:
> any comments from them?

Google old threads in comp.lang.c++.moderated and see if David Abrahams is in any dialogues with Walter--I think there have been a few in the past.  But the c.l.c++.m crowd are a hard group to please--D hasn't received a tremendous amount of support there in the past.  That said, a few notable folks in the C++ community have voiced support for D or at least for some of the features of D.  It's also worth pointing out that some of these features (GC and contracts, for example) are being proposed for inclusion in the next C++ standard :-)


Sean

"dennis luehring" <dennis_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:drdfik$1eer$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> any comments from them?
>
>

Anyone who is involved with boost probably has a high opinion of C++, and is therefore likely to find fault with any language that isn't C++.

At best, I suspect they would take a superficial look at D and take note of those facilities that are in C++ but missing from D (eg multiple inheritance, const).  This leads to a negative first impression that deters them from spending the additional time required to understand the strengths of D.

Another issue is that C++ and D share the same ecological niche.  I suspect that proponents of more dissimilar languages might provide fairer criticisms.


Tony
Melbourne, Australia

On 2006-01-27 15:46:40 -0800, "Tony" <ignorethis@nowhere.com> said:

> "dennis luehring" <dennis_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:drdfik$1eer$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> any comments from them?
>> 
>> 
> 
> Anyone who is involved with boost probably has a high opinion of C++, and is therefore likely to find fault with any language that isn't C++.
> 
> At best, I suspect they would take a superficial look at D and take note of those facilities that are in C++ but missing from D (eg multiple inheritance, const).  This leads to a negative first impression that deters them from spending the additional time required to understand the strengths of D.
> 
> Another issue is that C++ and D share the same ecological niche.  I suspect that proponents of more dissimilar languages might provide fairer criticisms.
> 
> 
> Tony
> Melbourne, Australia

I think you're failing to notice that a major portion of C++ users disdain the language, but did prefer it better than anything else.   For example, me!  As soon as I found D, i rejoiced.  Unfortunately, D hasn't yet culminated to the point where I can use it for everything I want to.

-S.

"Tony" <ignorethis@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:drebd5$2vf0$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> "dennis luehring" <dennis_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:drdfik$1eer$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> any comments from them?
> Anyone who is involved with boost probably has a high opinion of C++, and is therefore likely to find fault with any language that isn't C++.

I often (unsurprisingly) find that people who have invested a great deal of effort into mastering one particular language are very reluctant to find much good in other languages. That also explains why the D programming community is a relatively young crowd.

On 2006-01-27 19:15:15 -0800, "Walter Bright" <newshound@digitalmars.com> said:

> 
> "Tony" <ignorethis@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:drebd5$2vf0$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> "dennis luehring" <dennis_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message news:drdfik$1eer$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>> any comments from them?
>> Anyone who is involved with boost probably has a high opinion of C++, and is therefore likely to find fault with any language that isn't C++.
> 
> I often (unsurprisingly) find that people who have invested a great deal of effort into mastering one particular language are very reluctant to find much good in other languages. That also explains why the D programming community is a relatively young crowd.

I am not sure about that. D is C/C++/Java like. I have introduced many people to the D language/website and everyone had generally the same reaction: "Wow this looks like a fantastic language, but will it take off?"

I share that concern, as D lacks a major corporate sponsor or a major following.

However, I am hopeful, and I look forward to contributing to the D community.

>
>I am not sure about that. D is C/C++/Java like. I have introduced many people to the D language/website and everyone had generally the same reaction: "Wow this looks like a fantastic language, but will it take off?"
>
>I share that concern, as D lacks a major corporate sponsor or a major following.
>
Who was the "major corporate sponsor" for Perl, Python and Ruby?
Just because Java and C# needed corporate backing doesn't mean that there aren't
other ways for a language to succeed.

D needs to be successful enough to have an O'Reilly book published.

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:41:34 +0000, Mark T wrote:

> 
>>
>>I am not sure about that. D is C/C++/Java like. I have introduced many people to the D language/website and everyone had generally the same reaction: "Wow this looks like a fantastic language, but will it take off?"
>>
>>I share that concern, as D lacks a major corporate sponsor or a major following.
>>
> Who was the "major corporate sponsor" for Perl, Python and Ruby?
> Just because Java and C# needed corporate backing doesn't mean that there aren't
> other ways for a language to succeed.
> 
> D needs to be successful enough to have an O'Reilly book published.

Or maybe start publishing new versions on http://freshmeat.net

Mark T wrote:
> Nick wrote:
>> I share that concern, as D lacks a major corporate sponsor or a major following.
>>
> 
> Who was the "major corporate sponsor" for Perl, Python and Ruby?

I don't know about Perl or Ruby but Python had the early backing and support of the Corporation for National Research Initiatives (CNRI) which served in a mid-wife role as Python transitioned from an academic to commercial/personal use status.

-- 
Rod