Hello,

excuse me for dropping in with a simple question like this but I searched the FAQ and any available resources and I was unable to find an answer.

I read the D description and found the language rather interesting and sane, I just wish Stroustrup had the same expertise when he designed C++ in the first place. I'm currently using many languages, C, C++, C#, Pascal and I'm contemplating to write my next major project in D to see how it works out in real life.

My first test programs compile and run all right (Windows XP), except for one silly error. As soon as I start using comments (either //, /* or /+), I start getting 'invalid UTF-8 sequence' errors. The source file is plain ASCII but it doesn't make any difference if I change it to UTF- anything. The compiler version is v0.172, I've freshly downloaded it a couple of weeks ago from here.

PS: the forum doesn't work with Opera. With an out-of-
mainstream (yet) language like D, shouldn't we strive to
serve out-of-mainstream (yet) browsers as well? :-)))

Thanks,
  Gabor

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:58:57 +0200, Gabor Deak Jahn <djg@tramontana.co.hu> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> excuse me for dropping in with a simple question like this
> but I searched the FAQ and any available resources and I
> was unable to find an answer.
>
> I read the D description and found the language rather
> interesting and sane, I just wish Stroustrup had the same
> expertise when he designed C++ in the first place. I'm
> currently using many languages, C, C++, C#, Pascal and I'm
> contemplating to write my next major project in D to see
> how it works out in real life.
>
> My first test programs compile and run all right (Windows
> XP), except for one silly error. As soon as I start using
> comments (either //, /* or /+), I start getting 'invalid
> UTF-8 sequence' errors. The source file is plain ASCII but
> it doesn't make any difference if I change it to UTF-
> anything. The compiler version is v0.172, I've freshly
> downloaded it a couple of weeks ago from here.
>
> PS: the forum doesn't work with Opera. With an out-of-
> mainstream (yet) language like D, shouldn't we strive to
> serve out-of-mainstream (yet) browsers as well? :-)))
>
> Thanks,
>   Gabor

All the comments must also contain plain ASCII only. For example, scandinavian letters (ä, ö, å) cannot be used inside comments.

Btw, I am using Opera, and at the first glance the forums seems to work. I did have a couple of problems to connect to the newsgroup server though. It took a quite long time before the newgroups available on the server were listed (so that I could subscribe to them). But maybe it was just common lag.

== Quote from Gabor Deak Jahn (djg@tramontana.co.hu)'s article
> My first test programs compile and run all right (Windows XP), except for one silly error. As soon as I start using comments (either //, /* or /+), I start getting 'invalid UTF-8 sequence' errors. The source file is plain ASCII but it doesn't make any difference if I change it to UTF- anything.

Try with a different editor. Code::Blocks works for me. If you still have problems, look at your source code with hex editor and see if there are any strange sequences.

"Kristian Kilpi" <kjkilpi@gmail.com> wrote in message news:op.tjfefqr4usumhd@mist...
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:58:57 +0200, Gabor Deak Jahn <djg@tramontana.co.hu> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> excuse me for dropping in with a simple question like this but I searched the FAQ and any available resources and I was unable to find an answer.
>>
>> I read the D description and found the language rather interesting and sane, I just wish Stroustrup had the same expertise when he designed C++ in the first place. I'm currently using many languages, C, C++, C#, Pascal and I'm contemplating to write my next major project in D to see how it works out in real life.
>>
>> My first test programs compile and run all right (Windows XP), except for one silly error. As soon as I start using comments (either //, /* or /+), I start getting 'invalid UTF-8 sequence' errors. The source file is plain ASCII but it doesn't make any difference if I change it to UTF- anything. The compiler version is v0.172, I've freshly downloaded it a couple of weeks ago from here.
>>
>> PS: the forum doesn't work with Opera. With an out-of-
>> mainstream (yet) language like D, shouldn't we strive to
>> serve out-of-mainstream (yet) browsers as well? :-)))
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   Gabor
>
> All the comments must also contain plain ASCII only. For example, scandinavian letters (ä, ö, å) cannot be used inside comments.
>
> Btw, I am using Opera, and at the first glance the forums seems to work. I did have a couple of problems to connect to the newsgroup server though. It took a quite long time before the newgroups available on the server were listed (so that I could subscribe to them). But maybe it was just common lag.

D accepts UTF source files - http://www.digitalmars.com/d/lex.html

Set your editor's encoding as UTF8 to preserve non-ASCII characters. Even humble old Notepad can do this.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:50:51 +0200, JohnC <johnch_atms@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Kristian Kilpi" <kjkilpi@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:op.tjfefqr4usumhd@mist...
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:58:57 +0200, Gabor Deak Jahn <djg@tramontana.co.hu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> excuse me for dropping in with a simple question like this
>>> but I searched the FAQ and any available resources and I
>>> was unable to find an answer.
>>>
>>> I read the D description and found the language rather
>>> interesting and sane, I just wish Stroustrup had the same
>>> expertise when he designed C++ in the first place. I'm
>>> currently using many languages, C, C++, C#, Pascal and I'm
>>> contemplating to write my next major project in D to see
>>> how it works out in real life.
>>>
>>> My first test programs compile and run all right (Windows
>>> XP), except for one silly error. As soon as I start using
>>> comments (either //, /* or /+), I start getting 'invalid
>>> UTF-8 sequence' errors. The source file is plain ASCII but
>>> it doesn't make any difference if I change it to UTF-
>>> anything. The compiler version is v0.172, I've freshly
>>> downloaded it a couple of weeks ago from here.
>>>
>>> PS: the forum doesn't work with Opera. With an out-of-
>>> mainstream (yet) language like D, shouldn't we strive to
>>> serve out-of-mainstream (yet) browsers as well? :-)))
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>   Gabor
>>
>> All the comments must also contain plain ASCII only. For example,
>> scandinavian letters (ä, ö, å) cannot be used inside comments.
>>
>> Btw, I am using Opera, and at the first glance the forums seems to work. I
>> did have a couple of problems to connect to the newsgroup server though.
>> It took a quite long time before the newgroups available on the server
>> were listed (so that I could subscribe to them). But maybe it was just
>> common lag.
>
> D accepts UTF source files - http://www.digitalmars.com/d/lex.html
>
> Set your editor's encoding as UTF8 to preserve non-ASCII characters. Even
> humble old Notepad can do this.
>
>

Doh! I'm so stick with ASCII, that UTF scares me! :) But yeah, that's good to know.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 04:58:57 -0800, Gabor Deak Jahn <djg@tramontana.co.hu> wrote:

> PS: the forum doesn't work with Opera. With an out-of-
> mainstream (yet) language like D, shouldn't we strive to
> serve out-of-mainstream (yet) browsers as well? :-)))
>


I'm using opera for this newsgroup, and it works fine.  It didn't initially for some odd reason.  I can't remember how exactly I got it working, but I think I had to enable the newsgroup indirectly by clicking on a newsgroup link causing Opera to add it to the newsreader automatically.  Then the groups showed up.  Strange.  In short, I think it's a problem with Opera.

-JJR

Kristian Kilpi wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:50:51 +0200, JohnC <johnch_atms@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> "Kristian Kilpi" <kjkilpi@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.tjfefqr4usumhd@mist...
>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:58:57 +0200, Gabor Deak Jahn <djg@tramontana.co.hu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> excuse me for dropping in with a simple question like this
>>>> but I searched the FAQ and any available resources and I
>>>> was unable to find an answer.
>>>>
>>>> I read the D description and found the language rather
>>>> interesting and sane, I just wish Stroustrup had the same
>>>> expertise when he designed C++ in the first place. I'm
>>>> currently using many languages, C, C++, C#, Pascal and I'm
>>>> contemplating to write my next major project in D to see
>>>> how it works out in real life.
>>>>
>>>> My first test programs compile and run all right (Windows
>>>> XP), except for one silly error. As soon as I start using
>>>> comments (either //, /* or /+), I start getting 'invalid
>>>> UTF-8 sequence' errors. The source file is plain ASCII but
>>>> it doesn't make any difference if I change it to UTF-
>>>> anything. The compiler version is v0.172, I've freshly
>>>> downloaded it a couple of weeks ago from here.
>>>>
>>>> PS: the forum doesn't work with Opera. With an out-of-
>>>> mainstream (yet) language like D, shouldn't we strive to
>>>> serve out-of-mainstream (yet) browsers as well? :-)))
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>   Gabor
>>>
>>> All the comments must also contain plain ASCII only. For example,
>>> scandinavian letters (ä, ö, å) cannot be used inside comments.
>>>
>>> Btw, I am using Opera, and at the first glance the forums seems to work. I
>>> did have a couple of problems to connect to the newsgroup server though.
>>> It took a quite long time before the newgroups available on the server
>>> were listed (so that I could subscribe to them). But maybe it was just
>>> common lag.
>>
>> D accepts UTF source files - http://www.digitalmars.com/d/lex.html
>>
>> Set your editor's encoding as UTF8 to preserve non-ASCII characters. Even
>> humble old Notepad can do this.
>>
>>
> 
> Doh! I'm so stick with ASCII, that UTF scares me! :) But yeah, that's good to know.

UTF sorta scared me when I didn't know anything about it.
I wasn't stuck with ASCII, I couldn't have been, becuase I write and read Arabic text all the time. I was stuck with Code Page 1256.
but nah, code pages are crap. UTF rocks!

I have no accented letters in the comments (although I might need them in some places, I always write comments in English but my company name has accented letters so the header comment at the beginning of the file might have accents).

I get UTF-8 errors even if I put nothing in comments, just place a // on a line of its own anywhere. This is not a problem of editors, I use a plain and simple ASCII (although UTF-capable) editor, also checked the hex values, there is nothing wrong with the source file but error messages. So, again, plain ASCII file, no BOM or any other sequence up front, starts with // and the compiler stops with an error.

As far as Opera is concerned, I hven't tried to use it as a newsgroup, just followed the link from the Digital
Mars home page to the forum and the Post link in the lower right corner doesn't work. Interestingly, the
Reply at the bottom of a message already does, so I already can type this message in Opera, only I
couldn't initiate the thread. Some JavaScript programming error, I suppose.

Bye,
  Gábor

On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:29:35 +0000 (UTC), %u wrote:

> I have no accented letters in the comments (although I might need them in some places, I always write comments in English but my company name has accented letters so the header comment at the beginning of the file might have accents).
> 
> I get UTF-8 errors even if I put nothing in comments, just place a // on a line of its own anywhere. This is not a problem of editors, I use a plain and simple ASCII (although UTF-capable) editor, also checked the hex values, there is nothing wrong with the source file but error messages. So, again, plain ASCII file, no BOM or any other sequence up front, starts with // and the compiler stops with an error.

Show us the smallest program code that this effect happens with. That way we can see what you are talking about and test it independantly.

-- 
Derek

%u schrieb am 2006-11-23:
> I have no accented letters in the comments (although I might need them in some places, I always write comments in English but my company name has accented letters so the header comment at the beginning of the file might have accents).
>
> I get UTF-8 errors even if I put nothing in comments, just place a // on a line of its own anywhere. This is not a problem of editors, I use a plain and simple ASCII (although UTF-capable) editor, also checked the hex values, there is nothing wrong with the source file but error messages. So, again, plain ASCII file, no BOM or any other sequence up front, starts with // and the compiler stops with an error.

Can you please zip(to ensure that no "magic" transcoding occures) a sample source and send it to this newsgroup?

Thomas