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DSSS 0.73 released.
Oct 10, 2007
Gregor Richards
Oct 10, 2007
Gregor Richards
Oct 10, 2007
Bill Baxter
Oct 10, 2007
Gregor Richards
Oct 10, 2007
BCS
Oct 10, 2007
Gregor Richards
Oct 10, 2007
BCS
Oct 11, 2007
Graham St Jack
Oct 11, 2007
Gregor Richards
Oct 11, 2007
Gregor Richards
Oct 11, 2007
Graham St Jack
Oct 11, 2007
Knud Soerensen
Oct 11, 2007
Gregor Richards
Oct 11, 2007
Knud Soerensen
Oct 11, 2007
jcc7
October 10, 2007
DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software.

0.73 was supposed to have one or two more features (sorry BCS :( ), but I have less free time than I had anticipated. So, I had to cut it off. The changelog:
        - Rebuild: Merged DMD 2.003.
        - Improved incremental build speed.
        - Fixed excludes to work with a larger variety of paths (see ticket #126).
        - Added a warning for targets containing no files.
        - Fixed a hang in rebuild with unmatched braces (see ticket #129).
        - Object files are now put in compiler-specific directories (see
          ticket #128).
        - installdir hook command now manifests properly.
        - 'include' setting, counter to 'exclude' (see ticket #111).
        - Now throws an exception if a hook command fails, rather than
          exiting. This allows DSSS to clean up after itself more effectively.

Note that 2.0 support is not extensively tested (my primary platform is GDC), but it did compile some simple tests.

As per usual, more information and downloads are available at http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss/

 - Gregor Richards
October 10, 2007
Gregor Richards wrote:
> Note that 2.0 support is not extensively tested (my primary platform is GDC), but it did compile some simple tests.
> 

For those who haven't followed my announcements, they all have the same template ... I seem to have copy/pasted a bit too much, that's from the announcement for 0.72.1 ;)

 - Gregor Richards
October 10, 2007
Gregor Richards wrote:
> DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software.
> 
> 0.73 was supposed to have one or two more features (sorry BCS :( ), but I have less free time than I had anticipated. So, I had to cut it off. The changelog:
>         - Rebuild: Merged DMD 2.003.
>         - Improved incremental build speed.
>         - Fixed excludes to work with a larger variety of paths (see ticket #126).
>         - Added a warning for targets containing no files.
>         - Fixed a hang in rebuild with unmatched braces (see ticket #129).
>         - Object files are now put in compiler-specific directories (see
>           ticket #128).
>         - installdir hook command now manifests properly.
>         - 'include' setting, counter to 'exclude' (see ticket #111).
>         - Now throws an exception if a hook command fails, rather than
>           exiting. This allows DSSS to clean up after itself more effectively.
> 
> Note that 2.0 support is not extensively tested (my primary platform is GDC), but it did compile some simple tests.
> 
> As per usual, more information and downloads are available at http://www.dsource.org/projects/dsss/
> 
>  - Gregor Richards

Hooray!  I was beginning to worry we'd seen the last of you. :-)

I'm particularly happy about fix #129.  That one gets me about 10 times a day recently.  And I'm looking forward to playing with the 'include' directive.

--bb
October 10, 2007
Bill Baxter wrote:
> Hooray!  I was beginning to worry we'd seen the last of you. :-)
> 

As it turns out, school + work + graduate applications and tests + projects = 36 hours a day :)

 - Gregor Richards
October 10, 2007
Reply to Gregor,

> DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building,
> installation, configuration and acquisition of D software.
> 
> 0.73 was supposed to have one or two more features (sorry BCS :( ),

LOL, it's nice to know I'm a driving force in somthing. <G>

While I'm thinking about it, does rebuild still do "all at once" compiles? I ask because I have a project that that would be a Huge killer for. In fact I'm playing all sorts of games just to break one module up enough to keep DMD's memory usage under 1GB per piece. 

If it is still doing it in one lump, what can we get for piece by piece builds?

> 
> - Gregor Richards
> 


October 10, 2007
BCS wrote:
> Reply to Gregor,
> 
>> DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building,
>> installation, configuration and acquisition of D software.
>>
>> 0.73 was supposed to have one or two more features (sorry BCS :( ),
> 
> LOL, it's nice to know I'm a driving force in somthing. <G>
> 
> While I'm thinking about it, does rebuild still do "all at once" compiles? I ask because I have a project that that would be a Huge killer for. In fact I'm playing all sorts of games just to break one module up enough to keep DMD's memory usage under 1GB per piece.
> If it is still doing it in one lump, what can we get for piece by piece builds?
> 
>>
>> - Gregor Richards
>>
> 
> 

It no longer does all-at-once compiles, although memory usage was not my primary motivation.

 - Gregor Richards
October 10, 2007
Reply to Gregor,

> It no longer does all-at-once compiles, although memory usage was not
> my primary motivation.

Good, I seem to recall the thread but I don't remember what the reason was (and I don't particularly care)

> 
> - Gregor Richards
> 


October 11, 2007
I love DSSS as a way of building released code - keep up the good work Gregor.

However, its approach of building everything every time makes it unsuitable during development. Hopefully this will be addressed eventually.

In the meantime, I am working on a project using gdc on Linux with phobos, and have put together a simple build system (source attached). It is a real hack so far, isn't portable and only handles d sources, but it might stimulate a bit of interest.

Its features are:
* Automatic dependency detection.
* Compiles one source file at a time.
* Automatic linking of appropriate libraries.
* Enforcement of rather strict dependency rules (a pet subject of mine).
* Automatic execution of tests whose result files are out of date.
* Only building what is out of date.
* Uses directory naming conventions instead of configuration files.
* It is fast.

I plan to improve the build tool over time as I need improvements, but it will always be limited to use "during development", and will only ever be able to build code written to conform to its rules. That is, it isn't intended to compete with dsss, which is far more general. Also, it is fussy about dependencies in a way that most people don't like. I like it because I tend to work on large projects where dependency management is critical.

The idea is to develop something using this build tool, then repackage the code for building and installation using dsss.


BCS wrote:
> Reply to Gregor,
> 
>> DSSS, the D Shared Software System, is a tool to ease the building, installation, configuration and acquisition of D software.
>>
>> 0.73 was supposed to have one or two more features (sorry BCS :( ),
> 
> LOL, it's nice to know I'm a driving force in somthing. <G>
> 
> While I'm thinking about it, does rebuild still do "all at once"
> compiles? I ask because I have a project that that would be a Huge
> killer for. In fact I'm playing all sorts of games just to break one
> module up enough to keep DMD's memory usage under 1GB per piece.
> If it is still doing it in one lump, what can we get for piece by piece
> builds?
> 
>>
>> - Gregor Richards
>>
> 
> 




October 11, 2007
Graham St Jack wrote:
> However, its approach of building everything every time makes it unsuitable during development. Hopefully this will be addressed eventually.

This is totally incorrect. DSSS calls rebuild for everything, yes, but rebuild knows what to rebuild and what not to. Try calling it with -v and examining the output: You'll notice that it never rebuilds a file unless the corresponding .d file or its dependencies have changed.

 - Gregor Richards
October 11, 2007
Gregor Richards wrote:
> Graham St Jack wrote:
>> However, its approach of building everything every time makes it unsuitable during development. Hopefully this will be addressed eventually.
> 
> This is totally incorrect. DSSS calls rebuild for everything, yes, but rebuild knows what to rebuild and what not to. Try calling it with -v and examining the output: You'll notice that it never rebuilds a file unless the corresponding .d file or its dependencies have changed.
> 
>  - Gregor Richards

Erm, unless you're referring to libraries specifically, in which case an earlier bug which has been fixed in this version caused libraries to use -full >_>

 - Gregor Richards
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