I dunno if anyone knew this before but i wanted to give my kudos to a guy that did a lot for the D community by developing the still best debugger for the D Programming Language Ddbg (http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html)

The question often came up why it is not updated anymore. Well the reason for this is that Jascha Wetzel the developer of Ddbg earns the big bucks now with his product Turbolence 4D (http://jawset.com/) and his company "Jawset Visual Computing"

"TURBULENCE.4D makes the most realistic and efficient methods in CG fluid dynamics available in standard software"

Well and recently his product got used in the new Bruce Willis movie "Surrogates" (http://chooseyoursurrogate.com/).

All in all I whish him the best for the future and that he will never forget D when developing next cutting edge software.



The downside is that Ddbg finally needs a new developer for the future to get updated.

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:43:32 +0100, Stephan wrote:

> I dunno if anyone knew this before but i wanted to give my kudos to a guy that did a lot for the D community by developing the still best debugger for the D Programming Language Ddbg (http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html)
> 
> The question often came up why it is not updated anymore. Well the reason for this is that Jascha Wetzel the developer of Ddbg earns the big bucks now with his product Turbolence 4D (http://jawset.com/) and his company "Jawset Visual Computing"

Best wishes. :=)

Stephan schrieb:
> I dunno if anyone knew this before but i wanted to give my kudos to a guy that did a lot for the D community by developing the still best debugger for the D Programming Language Ddbg (http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html)
> 
> The question often came up why it is not updated anymore. Well the reason for this is that Jascha Wetzel the developer of Ddbg earns the big bucks now with his product Turbolence 4D (http://jawset.com/) and his company "Jawset Visual Computing"
> 
> "TURBULENCE.4D makes the most realistic and efficient methods in CG fluid dynamics available in standard software"
> 
> Well and recently his product got used in the new Bruce Willis movie "Surrogates" (http://chooseyoursurrogate.com/).
> 
> All in all I whish him the best for the future and that he will never forget D when developing next cutting edge software.
> 
> 
> 
> The downside is that Ddbg finally needs a new developer for the future to get updated.


In the second part of the mentioned restrictions in the license.txt is written:
* You may only redistribute the software unmodified, in the form and
  prepackaging it is available from the official website.

It's seems as if redistributing of a changed version is not allowed.
(But perhaps my english understanding is not good enought, I'm not an english native speaker :)
So in this case, we need to write a debugger from scratch.

greets
matthias

Matthias Pleh Wrote:

> Stephan schrieb:
> > I dunno if anyone knew this before but i wanted to give my kudos to a guy that did a lot for the D community by developing the still best debugger for the D Programming Language Ddbg (http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html)
> > 
> > The question often came up why it is not updated anymore. Well the reason for this is that Jascha Wetzel the developer of Ddbg earns the big bucks now with his product Turbolence 4D (http://jawset.com/) and his company "Jawset Visual Computing"
> > 
> > "TURBULENCE.4D makes the most realistic and efficient methods in CG fluid dynamics available in standard software"
> > 
> > Well and recently his product got used in the new Bruce Willis movie "Surrogates" (http://chooseyoursurrogate.com/).
> > 
> > All in all I whish him the best for the future and that he will never forget D when developing next cutting edge software.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The downside is that Ddbg finally needs a new developer for the future to get updated.
> 
> 
> In the second part of the mentioned restrictions in the license.txt is
> written:
> * You may only redistribute the software unmodified, in the form and
>    prepackaging it is available from the official website.
> 
> It's seems as if redistributing of a changed version is not allowed.
> (But perhaps my english understanding is not good enought, I'm not an
> english native speaker :)
> So in this case, we need to write a debugger from scratch.
> 
> greets
> matthias

I am sure if one has a strong intent to take over ddbg development, Jascha would not mind changing the license for this project, since he is not interested in it himself.

On 01/19/2010 09:32 PM, Matthias Pleh wrote:
> Stephan schrieb:
>> I dunno if anyone knew this before but i wanted to give my kudos to a
>> guy that did a lot for the D community by developing the still best
>> debugger for the D Programming Language Ddbg
>> (http://ddbg.mainia.de/releases.html)
>>
>> The question often came up why it is not updated anymore. Well the
>> reason for this is that Jascha Wetzel the developer of Ddbg earns the
>> big bucks now with his product Turbolence 4D (http://jawset.com/) and
>> his company "Jawset Visual Computing"
>>
>> "TURBULENCE.4D makes the most realistic and efficient methods in CG
>> fluid dynamics available in standard software"
>>
>> Well and recently his product got used in the new Bruce Willis movie
>> "Surrogates" (http://chooseyoursurrogate.com/).
>>
>> All in all I whish him the best for the future and that he will never
>> forget D when developing next cutting edge software.
>>
>>
>>
>> The downside is that Ddbg finally needs a new developer for the future
>> to get updated.
>
>
> In the second part of the mentioned restrictions in the license.txt is
> written:
> * You may only redistribute the software unmodified, in the form and
> prepackaging it is available from the official website.
>
> It's seems as if redistributing of a changed version is not allowed.
> (But perhaps my english understanding is not good enought, I'm not an
> english native speaker :)
> So in this case, we need to write a debugger from scratch.
>
> greets
> matthias

That's unfortunate, Jascha Wetzel has done some incredible things (not only ddbg). His code is really nice too, if ever someone would want to pick this up maybe he can be convinced to change the license.

Matthias Pleh wrote:
> It's seems as if redistributing of a changed version is not allowed.
> (But perhaps my english understanding is not good enought, I'm not an english native speaker :)

Worst case, you can distribute the original unmodified, and then a separate set of patches, which would comply with the license. But I agree this is not really viable.

So I guess Tango's Regex engine, which as far as I know, is Jascha's work is out of maintainer too :) That would explain why it has long standing list of tickets... Too bad.