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April 23, 2018 Trello group for build tools, IDEs, OS integration? | ||||
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I am not familiar with Trello (have no account there), but I noticed that it is easier to keep track of important issues over there than on a news group. I was thinking that the group of people that work on the language, runtime and Phobos have only a small overlap with those working on what's in the subject line, Martin being a prominent exception. People involved with the eco system have or _have had_ their own pet peeves. To name a few: * Installation paths https://forum.dlang.org/thread/20131112205019.12585bbd@marco-leise * What files to include in the binary releases https://forum.dlang.org/post/aymaziydrfhapuiurmpe@forum.dlang.org * dub and existing tooling or system package managers https://github.com/dlang/dub/issues/845 https://github.com/dlang/dub/issues/342 * New `version` identifiers for build tools (like dub's Have_*) https://forum.dlang.org/thread/scszysuevvjrjhahrvwn@forum.dlang.org It often revolves around establishing standards for a better user experience or better separating responsibilities. People in the group would include package maintainers for various OSs, IDE developers and tool developers. The discussions needs to remain visible for future reference and the outcomes should be collected to become something like a code style guide, just for those involved with the eco system. Bugzilla could be put to use for this, but I think it is less accessible. 1. Is this a good idea at all ? 2. If yes, could affairs be split up enough in the current Trello group or would a separate group be ideal ? 3. I'm thinking that the takeaway of the discussions should end up on wiki.dlang.org in an "eco system" category. Maybe start with one page and then move things to sub pages as sections grow. The goal is to have everyone on the same page, not everything. -- Marco |
April 23, 2018 Re: Trello group for build tools, IDEs, OS integration? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Marco Leise | On Monday, 23 April 2018 at 09:33:17 UTC, Marco Leise wrote: > I am not familiar with Trello (have no account there), but I noticed that it is easier to keep track of important issues over there than on a news group. I was thinking that the group of people that work on the language, runtime and Phobos have only a small overlap with those working on what's in the subject line, Martin being a prominent exception. > > [...] I agree that the current Bugzilla instance is suboptimal for collaboration. FYI: there's already a DLang Trello board, but it wasn't actively used: https://trello.com/b/XoFjxiqG/active https://trello.com/b/jGdlx9vZ/backlog GitHub Projects seem to be more successful so far, but not many people use them either: https://github.com/dlang/phobos/projects https://github.com/dlang/dmd/projects |
April 24, 2018 Re: Trello group for build tools, IDEs, OS integration? | ||||
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Posted in reply to Seb | Am Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:02:18 +0000 schrieb Seb <seb@wilzba.ch>: > I agree that the current Bugzilla instance is suboptimal for collaboration. > > FYI: there's already a DLang Trello board, but it wasn't actively used: > > https://trello.com/b/XoFjxiqG/active https://trello.com/b/jGdlx9vZ/backlog > > GitHub Projects seem to be more successful so far, but not many people use them either: > > https://github.com/dlang/phobos/projects https://github.com/dlang/dmd/projects Anyways I was thinking less of splitting work in units and assigning it to milestones than of a special interest group that just talks and does nothing except for making decisions and writing them down some place where all tool devs and package maintainers would look for them when something they want to work on may be interesting to others in the group. None of the technical solutions we use convinced me so far. -- Marco |
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