Oh, yeah, didn't think about VisualD.

On 8 feb 2011, at 18:34, Jesse Phillips wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Jacob Carlborg <doob at me.com> wrote:
>> I saw you mentioned "dmd flag for partial compilation - patch to write mixin expansions". Have you tried using Descent with the compile time debugger and view?
> 
> Well if his project is VisualD, I would assume he wants to put that feature into his IDE, and having the compiler provide it means even more tools can use it with out ripping apart the front end.
> 
>>>>>> Rainer Schuetze wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I cannot actually comment on the 64-bit version, but as it is probably also the candidate for dmd2.052 I'll take the opportunity to report on updating to the latest revision from github a couple of days ago. As I need a couple of patches, I cannot use the release version anyway. There were quite a few problems getting my project (visuald) to compile (on win32):
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Jacob Carlborg wrote:
> I saw you mentioned "dmd flag for partial compilation - patch to write mixin expansions". Have you tried using Descent with the compile time debugger and view?
>
> 

Seeing the videos I was always impressed by the features Ary has put into descent. Unfortunately, it seemed the basics were not working very well for me (e.g. project management, debugging). This might have to do with me working under Windows, though.

On Feb 9, 2011, at 2:20 AM, Rainer Schuetze <r.sagitario at gmx.de> wrote:

> 
> Jacob Carlborg wrote:
>> I saw you mentioned "dmd flag for partial compilation - patch to write mixin expansions". Have you tried using Descent with the compile time debugger and view?
>> 
>> 
> 
> Seeing the videos I was always impressed by the features Ary has put into descent. Unfortunately, it seemed the basics were not working very well for me (e.g. project management, debugging). This might have to do with me working under Windows, though.

Does Descent work reasonably for D2 yet? Also, I thought that project died...
> 

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jason House <jason.james.house at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does Descent work reasonably for D2 yet? Also, I thought that project died...

I think it works but not to well wit some of D2 features.

Yes it is no longer under development, doesn't mean you can't use it.

Is it open source? If so, is there interest out there in continuing it?

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On Feb 9, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Jesse Phillips <jesse.k.phillips at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jason House <jason.james.house at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Does Descent work reasonably for D2 yet? Also, I thought that project died...
>
> I think it works but not to well wit some of D2 features.
>
> Yes it is no longer under development, doesn't mean you can't use it.
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I think the author is helping another IDE project, but that project didn't look as mature when I last checked. I think the basic idea is that the Descent code base was too messy to maintain.

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On Feb 9, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu <andrei at erdani.com> wrote:

> Is it open source? If so, is there interest out there in continuing it?
> 
> Sent by shouting through my showerhead.
> 
> On Feb 9, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Jesse Phillips <jesse.k.phillips at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jason House <jason.james.house at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Does Descent work reasonably for D2 yet? Also, I thought that project died...
>> 
>> I think it works but not to well wit some of D2 features.
>> 
>> Yes it is no longer under development, doesn't mean you can't use it.
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Jason House <jason.james.house at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the author is helping another IDE project, but that project didn't look as mature when I last checked. I think the basic idea is that the Descent code base was too messy to maintain.

Development is continuing on MmmmmMmmm, or EclipseD as it has been renamed. Ary isn't doing the development.

I think it's been renamed to DDT.

/Jacob Carlborg

On 09 Feb, 2011,at 05:32 PM, Jesse Phillips <jesse.k.phillips at gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Jason House <jason.james.house at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the author is helping another IDE project, but that project didn't look as mature when I last checked. I think the basic idea is that the Descent code base was too messy to maintain.

Development is continuing on MmmmmMmmm, or EclipseD as it has been
renamed. Ary isn't doing the development.
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Yes, it's open source. It's based the DMD frontend, I think it's basically a Java port of the ?frontend. But in the long run it's hard to maintain, constantly need to keep up with DMD and port the changes.

Actually I don't know how that is working out with the licenses. DMD fronten is GPL and Eclipse is EPL and they're not compatible.


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On 09 Feb, 2011,at 04:24 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu <andrei at erdani.com> wrote:

Is it open source? If so, is there interest out there in continuing it?

Sent by shouting through my showerhead.

On Feb 9, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Jesse Phillips <jesse.k.phillips at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Jason House <jason.james.house at gmail.com
> > wrote:
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>> Does Descent work reasonably for D2 yet? Also, I thought that project died...
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> I think it works but not to well wit some of D2 features.
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> Yes it is no longer under development, doesn't mean you can't use it.
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Jacob Carlborg <doob at me.com> wrote:
> Yes, it's open source. It's based the DMD frontend, I think it's basically a
> Java port of the ?frontend. But in the long run it's hard to maintain,
> constantly need to keep up with DMD and port the changes.
> Actually I don't know how that is working out with the licenses. DMD fronten
> is GPL and Eclipse is EPL and they're not compatible
>

Eclipse plugins can and have been published under almost every
license. The fact that it's not EPL just means it won't be officially
adopted by the Eclipse foundation, even if it ever reaches the level
of maturity required.
If you want to see the crazy licensing at work, take a look at
Subversive, the official Eclipse Subversion plugin. The plugin itself
is hosted at Eclipse, but the Subversion connectors that make it
actually work have to be hosted off site and installed separately
because the licenses don't match.