Frankly, I'm tired of listending to Mr. "D" stir up trouble.  Walter started this group, and generally it has been very civil.  It's time it was again.

D, stop flaming.

Everybody else, let's stop flaming back.  If he won't shut up, then at least stop responding to him and maybe he'll go away.



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"Russ Lewis" <spamhole-2001-07-16@deming-os.org> wrote in message news:3C6052F1.E1FE0BEF@deming-os.org...
> Frankly, I'm tired of listending to Mr. "D" stir up trouble.  Walter started this group, and generally it has been very civil.  It's time it was again.
>
> D, stop flaming.
>
> Everybody else, let's stop flaming back.  If he won't shut up, then at least stop responding to him and maybe he'll go away.

   I second this. He brings some valid points, but IMHO his signal/noise
ratio is abysmal.

Salutaciones,
                         JCAB

Too late!!! ;)

Sean

"Russ Lewis" <spamhole-2001-07-16@deming-os.org> wrote in message news:3C6052F1.E1FE0BEF@deming-os.org...
> Frankly, I'm tired of listending to Mr. "D" stir up trouble.  Walter started this group, and generally it has been very civil.  It's time it was again.
>
> D, stop flaming.
>
> Everybody else, let's stop flaming back.  If he won't shut up, then at least stop responding to him and maybe he'll go away.
>
>
>
> <growl>

Juan Carlos Arevalo Baeza <jcab@roningames.com> wrote in message news:a3plj1$k1u$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> "Russ Lewis" <spamhole-2001-07-16@deming-os.org> wrote in message news:3C6052F1.E1FE0BEF@deming-os.org...
> > Frankly, I'm tired of listending to Mr. "D" stir up trouble.  Walter started this group, and generally it has been very civil.  It's time it was again.
> >
> > D, stop flaming.
> >
> > Everybody else, let's stop flaming back.  If he won't shut up, then at least stop responding to him and maybe he'll go away.
>
>    I second this. He brings some valid points, but IMHO his signal/noise
> ratio is abysmal.

I recommend the following reading.


Why Things Bite Back
Edward Tenner

If it can go wrong, it will--thus Murphy's Law. Science journalist
Edward Tenner looks more closely at this eternal verity, named after
a U.S. Air Force captain who, during a test of rocket-sled
deceleration, noticed that critical gauges had been improperly set
and concluded, "If there's more than one way to do a job and one
of those ways will end in disaster, then somebody will do it that
way." Tenner concurs, and he gives us myriad case studies of how
technological fixes often create bigger problems than the ones they
were meant to solve in the first place. The indiscriminate use of
antibiotics, by way of example, has yielded hardier strains of
bacteria and viruses that do not respond to pharmaceutical
treatment; the wide-scale use of air conditioning in cities has
raised the outdoor temperature in some places by as much as
10 degrees, adding stress to already-taxed cooling systems; the
modern reliance on medical intervention to deal with simple
illnesses, to say nothing of the rapidly growing number of elective
surgeries, means that even a low percentage of error
(one patient in twenty-five, by a recent estimate) can affect
increasingly large numbers of people. Tenner examines what he
deems the "unintended consequences" of technological innovation,
drawing examples from everyday objects and situations. Although he
recounts disaster after painful disaster, his book makes for
curiously entertaining, if sometimes scary, reading. --Gregory McNamee

The Logic of Failure
Dietrich Dorner, et al

That's Not What We Meant to Do:
Reform and Its Unintended Consequences in the Twentieth Century
Steven M. Gillon

Normal Accidents
Charles Perrow

Systemantics
The Underground Text of Systems Lore
John Gall, D.H. Gall (Illustrator)

"Russ Lewis" <spamhole-2001-07-16@deming-os.org> wrote in message news:3C6052F1.E1FE0BEF@deming-os.org...
> Frankly, I'm tired of listending to Mr. "D" stir up trouble.  Walter started this group, and generally it has been very civil.  It's time it was again.
>
> D, stop flaming.
>
> Everybody else, let's stop flaming back.  If he won't shut up, then at least stop responding to him and maybe he'll go away.

Just as a point of information, I think I recognize this guy.  The "s_nudds" part of his email address suggests he's Scott Nudds.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=scott+nudds+comp.lang.c&hl=en

I'd say D's being quite civil...

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rich@kastle.com (work) or krehbiel3@home.com (personal)

"Richard Krehbiel" <rich@kastle.com> wrote in message news:a3rdet$2d2l$1@digitaldaemon.com...

> Just as a point of information, I think I recognize this guy.  The
"s_nudds"
> part of his email address suggests he's Scott Nudds.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=scott+nudds+comp.lang.c&hl=en

   :)

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=scott+nudds+comp.lang.c&hl=en&selm=32F7ABA C.794B%40vnet.ibm.com&rnum=9

---
We all know that C is substandard garbage.  We have all been bitten by it.  We know that the future will abandon C.  But unlike some, I see no reason to justify sloth that must be abandoned.
---

   Sounds like him alright. Either him or a copycat.

> > D, stop flaming.
> >
> > Everybody else, let's stop flaming back.  If he won't shut up, then at least stop responding to him and maybe he'll go away.
>
> Just as a point of information, I think I recognize this guy.  The
"s_nudds"
> part of his email address suggests he's Scott Nudds.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=scott+nudds+comp.lang.c&hl=en
>
> I'd say D's being quite civil...

You're right, it's Scott Nudds.   However I'd appreciate him not trying to ram his opinions down everyone's throat... make a point (once, preferrably) and let it rest.

Sean

"Sean L. Palmer" <spalmer@iname.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:a3rvk1$7pf$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > > D, stop flaming.
> > >
> > > Everybody else, let's stop flaming back.  If he won't shut up, then at least stop responding to him and maybe he'll go away.
> >
> > Just as a point of information, I think I recognize this guy.  The
> "s_nudds"
> > part of his email address suggests he's Scott Nudds.
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=scott+nudds+comp.lang.c&hl=en
> >
> > I'd say D's being quite civil...
>
> You're right, it's Scott Nudds.   However I'd appreciate him not trying to ram his opinions down everyone's throat... make a point (once,
preferrably)
> and let it rest.

I don't think he's really Scott Nudds. Mr Nudds is a very fireproof troll,
he wouldn't stop after only some tenth of messages. It's probabily a
schoolboy that has read about this Mr. Nudds' adventures in books,
and now tries to emulate it.
Simply opening a "s_nudds" account on hotmail means nothing.
And the real Nudds wouldn't hide itself under an acronym.

Ciao

Gee. Am I all that famous?  In all the gin joints in all the world... Snicker.

The D project exists for the very reasons I illustrated so long ago. Please don't hate be because I'm superior.

Recommended reading (above) is still recommended..Ignore ergonomics and
systematics
at your own perril.

The all powerful mighty Nudds has spoken.

Roberto Mariottini <rmariottini@lycosmail.com> wrote in message
news:a3tcmq$gq6$1@digitaldaemon.com...
I don't think he's really Scott Nudds. Mr Nudds is a very fireproof troll,
> he wouldn't stop after only some tenth of messages. It's probabily a
> schoolboy that has read about this Mr. Nudds' adventures in books,
> and now tries to emulate it.
> Simply opening a "s_nudds" account on hotmail means nothing.
> And the real Nudds wouldn't hide itself under an acronym.

"D" <s_nudds@hotmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:a3u03m$rfo$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Gee. Am I all that famous?  In all the gin joints in all the world... Snicker.
>
> The D project exists for the very reasons I illustrated so long ago. Please don't hate be because I'm superior.
>
> Recommended reading (above) is still recommended..Ignore ergonomics and
> systematics
> at your own perril.
>
> The all powerful mighty Nudds has spoken.

Yes, you are Scott Nudds, and I am Bill Gates, write me at: bill_gates55@hotmail.com

Ciao