"Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:aef61u$2j1f$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I usually put braces there in any case because they're more visible than a semicolon.
>
> Sean
>


Yes, or place the semicolon on a line by itself:

for(int n; n<Max && !isFound(n); n++)
    ;


But I think this is best:

for(int n; n<Max && !isFound(n); n++)
{
}



for(int n; n<Max && !isFound(n); n++);

This sucks, it is too easy to miss the semicolon here!


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I actually prefer

for(blah; blah; blah)
{}

which is distinguished from all other fors (ie. any that are not specifically intended to contain no statements) denoted as

for(blah; blah; blah)
{
    ...
}

by the use of {}. This {} denotes a conscious decision to "contain nothing"

Either way, the use of braces is far more visible than a semicolon


"OddesE" <OddesE_XYZ@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:afd5sf$29ka$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> "Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:aef61u$2j1f$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > I usually put braces there in any case because they're more visible than
a
> > semicolon.
> >
> > Sean
> >
>
>
> Yes, or place the semicolon on a line by itself:
>
> for(int n; n<Max && !isFound(n); n++)
>     ;
>
>
> But I think this is best:
>
> for(int n; n<Max && !isFound(n); n++)
> {
> }
>
>
>
> for(int n; n<Max && !isFound(n); n++);
>
> This sucks, it is too easy to miss the semicolon here!
>
>
> --
> Stijn
> OddesE_XYZ@hotmail.com
> http://OddesE.cjb.net
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> Remove _XYZ from my address when replying by mail
>
>
>

I've read it previously.  It's like the guy read my mind!!

Sean

"OddesE" <OddesE_XYZ@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:afd5jl$29dg$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> "Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:ae6ql5$1c6h$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > I'm not taking anything as flame (that's just how I react occasionally.
> ;)
> > I didn't mean my post as reactionary or flame either;  sorry if you took
> it
> > that way.
> >
> > Oh well I can live with semicolons.  Not a big deal.  It's better than having to surround every statement with parenthesis or braces.
> >
> > I just wish the IDE/Editor performed more of these functions.  The text-based nature of programming languages is getting me down lately.  A smart IDE can detect errors as you type, and could auto-indent, as well
> as,
> > say, draw barely-visible boxes around each statement or whatever.
> >
> > You could program in a sort of boxes, plugs, and sockets view; a kind of data flow graph.  Maybe toggle back and forth between that and text
view.
> > Or to a class hierarchy view.  The raw text view is so restrictive and antiquated in comparison.  One could make a programming language that
> didn't
> > use text at all if you tried.
> >
> > What's really important in a language (to me) is the conceptual relationships between its elements. What gets what to do what with what.
> >
> > Sean
> >
>
>
> Sean, check out this article called
> SCID - Source Code In Database:
> http://mindprod.com/scid.html
> I found it to be a very iluminating
> article, with some great ideas!
> It talks about a lot of the things
> you mention in your post.
>
> Incidentally, we have already been
> talking on this group on something that
> comes close to this, DML, a format
> to store D source code in XML. The idea
> is that you store only the pure code
> and leave petty details like indentation
> to be handled by the editor and an
> XSLT stylesheet with some preferences.
> DML never came further than pipe-dream
> status though... :(
>
>
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> Stijn
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>
>
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:58:04 -0700, "Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I usually put braces there in any case because they're more visible than a semicolon.
> 
Semicolons (and other punctuation) is much easier to see with the appropriate font. I use a font that enhances these characters and it does change what I consider readable!

I agree that a different color or font will help (somewhat!) but the main problem is that the brain selectively filters out the ubiquitous semicolon (because it's *everywhere*) so you plain don't perceive it even though your eyes can easily see it.  The opposite is even more true, the lack of a semicolon just doesn't "jump out" at you.

Automatic IDE indentation would solve most of this.  But IDE's are not part of a core language spec.  ;(

Sean

"Karl Bochert" <kbochert@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:1103_1025228880@bose...
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:58:04 -0700, "Sean L. Palmer"
<seanpalmer@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > I usually put braces there in any case because they're more visible than
a
> > semicolon.
> >
> Semicolons (and other punctuation) is much easier to see with the
appropriate font. I use
> a font that enhances these characters and it does change what I consider
readable!

I tend to agree with you. I only didn't like taking out those repetitive ugly semicolon because it caused problems in C/C++, but D seems to have fixed most of those things. On the other hand there are cases where you need to use full stops, otherwise things get confusing.

"Sean L. Palmer" <seanpalmer@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:afgp92$hkq$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I agree that a different color or font will help (somewhat!) but the main problem is that the brain selectively filters out the ubiquitous semicolon (because it's *everywhere*) so you plain don't perceive it even though
your
> eyes can easily see it.  The opposite is even more true, the lack of a semicolon just doesn't "jump out" at you.
>
> Automatic IDE indentation would solve most of this.  But IDE's are not
part
> of a core language spec.  ;(
>
> Sean
>
> "Karl Bochert" <kbochert@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message news:1103_1025228880@bose...
> > On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 03:58:04 -0700, "Sean L. Palmer"
> <seanpalmer@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > I usually put braces there in any case because they're more visible
than
> a
> > > semicolon.
> > >
> > Semicolons (and other punctuation) is much easier to see with the
> appropriate font. I use
> > a font that enhances these characters and it does change what I consider
> readable!
>
>
>