Fellow D-ers

We had a great initial response of enthusiasm for The D Journal in June/July, but unfortunately have had very few submissions, which leaves our proposed initial September issue release looking more than a little optimistic. I can imagine four reasons for the lack of submissions:

1. Nobody is interested.
2. Everyone is very busy
3. D itself is too new
4. People are not yet confident in D to want to put pen to paper

Given the enthusiasm that was observed when the journal was mentioned, I don't think that case 1 applies. I think 2, 3 and 4 together probably encapsulate the issue. For myself, I have been too busy over the last two months to put my money where my mouth is and write a D article (I have to confess I haven't even been able to do much D during that time). I should mention that we've had quite a lot of Notes ideas from a couple of people, and a number of people have offered to do technical editing, just no article proposals. :(

Therefore I think there are three possible actions:

1. Scrap the idea
2. Put out a modest initial journal soon, perhaps with some Tech Notes, a
Word From Walter, and any other contributions that we can strong arm a
maleable few into giving.
3. Wait until D 1.0 has been released, presuming that the stability we will
get from that version will lend itself to a writing spree.

My preference is 3, assuming 1.0 is not too far into the future. I certainly don't think we should scrap the idea - I think the idea was good, just, it seems, a little early.

I'd love to hear all your thoughts on this. There's certainly no point in continuing without interested readers _and_ writers.

Thanks

Matthew

P.S. If any of you simply MUST see some D in print, I have an article "Comparing C# Performance with C, C++, D and Java" coming out in either November or December's issue of C/C++ User's Journal (www.cuj.com). Hopefully this can be another small step in spreading the word ...

Speaking for myself, I've just been too busy (and will for the rest of the year). I have always thought that August was very optimistic. I think the D journal should be given at around 6 months with constant newsgroup reminders and nags. Also I think after the first one, new additions should come out every two (or more) months (at least to begin with).

The article I was thinking of writting myself was a "porting from C++ to D" article. And to write it as a port one of my medium sized programs over. As I said, I've have no time. (Infact I'm working on 4 assignments of my 18 assignments, at the same time as taking to group members over the phone at this very moment.)

Also getting volunteers is always a problem with these things, especially on-line.

But, I'm a realist.

PS - I would still really like to see a D Jounal, but it's going to be a battle.


"Matthew Wilson" <matthew@thedjournal.com> wrote in message news:aiq6gs$ij0$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Fellow D-ers
>
> We had a great initial response of enthusiasm for The D Journal in June/July, but unfortunately have had very few submissions, which leaves
our
> proposed initial September issue release looking more than a little optimistic. I can imagine four reasons for the lack of submissions:
>
> 1. Nobody is interested.
> 2. Everyone is very busy
> 3. D itself is too new
> 4. People are not yet confident in D to want to put pen to paper
>
> Given the enthusiasm that was observed when the journal was mentioned, I don't think that case 1 applies. I think 2, 3 and 4 together probably encapsulate the issue. For myself, I have been too busy over the last two months to put my money where my mouth is and write a D article (I have to confess I haven't even been able to do much D during that time). I should mention that we've had quite a lot of Notes ideas from a couple of people, and a number of people have offered to do technical editing, just no
article
> proposals. :(
>
> Therefore I think there are three possible actions:
>
> 1. Scrap the idea
> 2. Put out a modest initial journal soon, perhaps with some Tech Notes, a
> Word From Walter, and any other contributions that we can strong arm a
> maleable few into giving.
> 3. Wait until D 1.0 has been released, presuming that the stability we
will
> get from that version will lend itself to a writing spree.
>
> My preference is 3, assuming 1.0 is not too far into the future. I
certainly
> don't think we should scrap the idea - I think the idea was good, just, it seems, a little early.
>
> I'd love to hear all your thoughts on this. There's certainly no point in continuing without interested readers _and_ writers.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthew
>
> P.S. If any of you simply MUST see some D in print, I have an article "Comparing C# Performance with C, C++, D and Java" coming out in either November or December's issue of C/C++ User's Journal (www.cuj.com). Hopefully this can be another small step in spreading the word ...
>
>
>
>

"anderson" <anderson@firestar.com.au> wrote in message news:aiq8oc$ks5$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> Speaking for myself, I've just been too busy (and will for the rest of the year). I have always thought that August was very optimistic. I think the
D
> journal should be given at around 6 months with constant newsgroup
reminders
> and nags. Also I think after the first one, new additions should come out
> every two (or more) months (at least to begin with).
>
> The article I was thinking of writting myself was a "porting from C++ to
D"
> article. And to write it as I port one of my medium sized programs over.
As
> I said, I've have no time. (Infact I'm working on 4 assignments of my 18 assignments, at the same time as taking to group members over the phone at this very moment.)
>
> Also getting volunteers is always a problem with these things, especially on-line.
>
> But, I'm a realist.
>
> PS - I would still really like to see a D Jounal, but it's going to be a battle.
>
>
> "Matthew Wilson" <matthew@thedjournal.com> wrote in message news:aiq6gs$ij0$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > Fellow D-ers
> >
> > We had a great initial response of enthusiasm for The D Journal in June/July, but unfortunately have had very few submissions, which leaves
> our
> > proposed initial September issue release looking more than a little optimistic. I can imagine four reasons for the lack of submissions:
> >
> > 1. Nobody is interested.
> > 2. Everyone is very busy
> > 3. D itself is too new
> > 4. People are not yet confident in D to want to put pen to paper
> >
> > Given the enthusiasm that was observed when the journal was mentioned, I don't think that case 1 applies. I think 2, 3 and 4 together probably encapsulate the issue. For myself, I have been too busy over the last
two
> > months to put my money where my mouth is and write a D article (I have
to
> > confess I haven't even been able to do much D during that time). I
should
> > mention that we've had quite a lot of Notes ideas from a couple of
people,
> > and a number of people have offered to do technical editing, just no
> article
> > proposals. :(
> >
> > Therefore I think there are three possible actions:
> >
> > 1. Scrap the idea
> > 2. Put out a modest initial journal soon, perhaps with some Tech Notes,
a
> > Word From Walter, and any other contributions that we can strong arm a
> > maleable few into giving.
> > 3. Wait until D 1.0 has been released, presuming that the stability we
> will
> > get from that version will lend itself to a writing spree.
> >
> > My preference is 3, assuming 1.0 is not too far into the future. I
> certainly
> > don't think we should scrap the idea - I think the idea was good, just,
it
> > seems, a little early.
> >
> > I'd love to hear all your thoughts on this. There's certainly no point
in
> > continuing without interested readers _and_ writers.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> > P.S. If any of you simply MUST see some D in print, I have an article "Comparing C# Performance with C, C++, D and Java" coming out in either November or December's issue of C/C++ User's Journal (www.cuj.com). Hopefully this can be another small step in spreading the word ...
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

I like option 2. Starting out modestly is not a bad way at all to start. I suppose it's like starting an exercise program - going suddenly from couch potato to 3 hours a day in the gym just never works <g>.

Well, I'm back in my office now after a long and quite productive vacation, ready to serve the journal once more...
-- 
Alix Pexton...

Webmaster, The D Journal
web: www.thedjournal.com
email:webmaster@thedjournal.com
"The D journal, a work in progress..."

"Alix Pexton" <Alix@seven-point-star.co.uk> wrote in message news:01c2439d$95bfd9e0$0dba01d5@jpswm...
> Well, I'm back in my office now after a long and quite productive
vacation,
> ready to serve the journal once more...

I learned long ago to never judge any computer related endeavor by what happens in August - nothing ever happens in August because everyone is on vacation! Anyhow, hope you had a good time!

On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:13:42 +1000, "Matthew Wilson" <matthew@thedjournal.com> wrote:

>1. Nobody is interested.
>2. Everyone is very busy
>3. D itself is too new
>4. People are not yet confident in D to want to put pen to paper

I think many people are just waiting...

I don't think people feel they can sit down and
start using D in real world applications...

So they just wait.

They may have also been burned by hope-inducing languages before.

;-p