Jeff Peil wrote:

> The no part is that I wouldn't really consider things like the ide, or libraries like the crt, stl, mfc, or atl as seperate products.  For example, if the crt isn't in a shape where it can ship, then the compiler isn't either (particularly in the crt case since the compiler itself uses the crt.)

Ok, well I follow that. Seems we were just talking in circles over differing interpretatons of terms.  In any case, looking forward to the next release.