Thread overview
Wiki news and a few thoughts
Apr 01, 2003
Helmut Leitner
Apr 01, 2003
Walter
Apr 03, 2003
Luna Kid
Apr 03, 2003
Helmut Leitner
Apr 03, 2003
Luna Kid
April 01, 2003
There are some new pages that may be interesting:

OneMinuteWiki explains the wiki
  <http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?OneMinuteWiki>

The GuestBook is waiting for entries
  <http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuestBook>

The EvaluationGuide needs proofreading
  <http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EvaluationGuide>
describes the installation of the main components and
free sources (DM, DMD, DIG, Pavel's and Daniel's).

Are there other free D sources?

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Wouldn't it also be nice to have a
 - D community project list (who is working on what)
 - D community task list (wishes looking for someone to to the work)
      - a tutorial?
      - a regex example source?
      - improvements to d2html?
      - a benchmark module
      - ...
?


-- 
Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at
Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com
April 01, 2003
Nice work!


April 03, 2003
> Wouldn't it also be nice to have a
>  - D community project list (who is working on what)

Excellent idea. You may also take into account that it
would likely be growing to something "bigger" that could
be better handled by some existing task/project management
software, saving you much duplicate work. But that may
be just far too ahead yet, dunno.

>  - D community task list (wishes looking for someone to to the work)
>       - a tutorial?
>       - a regex example source?
>       - improvements to d2html?
>       - a benchmark module
>       - ...
> ?

All of them would be very nice to have, of course. :)
Great stuff, sir Helmut!

One _pedantic_ comment to "The parts" at: http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EvaluationGuide#Theparts

To a newbie, the current hints may give the impression
that (s)he *must* do some hunting even if he only wants
to try the language itself (with e.g. a "Hello world").
It would be nice to make it explicit, that DMD + DM =
a _completely working_ language environment, _including_
phobos and printf, of course, and that all the rest is
fully optional.

(The above is indicated later, though, in the "Installation"
section.)

Cheers,
Luna Kid


April 03, 2003

Luna Kid wrote:
> 
> > Wouldn't it also be nice to have a
> >  - D community project list (who is working on what)
> 
> Excellent idea. You may also take into account that it
> would likely be growing to something "bigger" that could
> be better handled by some existing task/project management
> software, saving you much duplicate work. But that may
> be just far too ahead yet, dunno.

Ok, lets see how far we can go using this wiki tool.
If we outgrow it, then surely someone will have an idea
how to go on...

> >  - D community task list (wishes looking for someone to to the work)
> >       - a tutorial?
> >       - a regex example source?
> >       - improvements to d2html?
> >       - a benchmark module
> >       - ...
> > ?
> 
> All of them would be very nice to have, of course. :)
> Great stuff, sir Helmut!

Visions are easy to create, even easier than objects. :-)

> One _pedantic_ comment to "The parts" at: http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EvaluationGuide#Theparts
> 
> To a newbie, the current hints may give the impression
> that (s)he *must* do some hunting even if he only wants
> to try the language itself (with e.g. a "Hello world").
> It would be nice to make it explicit, that DMD + DM =
> a _completely working_ language environment, _including_
> phobos and printf, of course, and that all the rest is
> fully optional.
> 
> (The above is indicated later, though, in the "Installation"
> section.)

Thank you for the feedback (I numbered the parts and added your comment in parentheses). Is that better?

I hope that some time in the future anyone will just "Edit" the pages if he sees something is missing.

If you want to be careful not to "interfere", you are always welcome in a wiki to add a discussion section at the bottom of any page. That's part of the wiki culture.

It's also part of the wiki culture, that ideas or pages
itself are rarely thought to "belong" somebody. Everybody is able
and invited to participate. That's part of the fun.

-- 
Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at
Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com
April 03, 2003
> > One _pedantic_ comment to "The parts" at: http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EvaluationGuide#Theparts
> >
> > To a newbie, the current hints may give the impression
> > that (s)he *must* do some hunting even if he only wants
> > to try the language itself (with e.g. a "Hello world").
> > It would be nice to make it explicit, that DMD + DM =
> > a _completely working_ language environment, _including_
> > phobos and printf, of course, and that all the rest is
> > fully optional.
> >
> > (The above is indicated later, though, in the "Installation"
> > section.)
>
> Thank you for the feedback (I numbered the parts and added your comment in parentheses). Is that better?

Yes, thanks!

> I hope that some time in the future anyone will just "Edit" the pages if he sees something is missing.
>
> If you want to be careful not to "interfere", you are always welcome in a wiki to add a discussion section at the bottom of any page. That's part of the wiki culture.
>
> It's also part of the wiki culture, that ideas or pages
> itself are rarely thought to "belong" somebody. Everybody is able
> and invited to participate. That's part of the fun.

Yeah, I've been meditating over this Wiki-style cooperation
for a while: I have not reached a state of revelation yet,
but I find it intriguing, how peer-editable documents can
apparently avoid drawning in entropy, and are able to actually
evolve, rather than erode... I see it can work, but the reasons
are still beyond me... :) Very interesting.

Cheers,
Luna Kid