If you can get Google to find it, it can display postscript as html.  This one, unfortunately, does not appear to be cached as html yet.

btw a Google search on "Digital Mars" gets lots of appropriate hits.  ;)

Sean

"Walter" <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote in message news:b8abmv$2pq5$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>
> "Garen Parham" <nospam@garen.net> wrote in message news:b8a5vn$2ltp$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> > There is a multi-vendor ABI standard that GCC, ICC and HP follows thats available.  A general overview is here:
> >
> >
>
http://www.codesourcery.com/publications_folder/a_common_vendor_abi_for_cplu
> splus
>
> Thanks, but it's in postscript. Any way to view ps in a browser?
>
> > Complete docs here:
> >
> > http://www.codesourcery.com/cxx-abi/
>
> That's a spec for the 64 bit Itanium. I need it for the 32 bit x86 processors.

If you could email me those two files, I'd appreciate it. I don't have the gcc source. Anyhow, despite having the C++ compiler running on linux, there is many months of work with all those compatibility issues. Reworking the way inheritance works is particularly horrible.

Charles Banas wrote:
> but it's nice because it not only acts as an editable semi-permanent document, but it also encapsulates everything that a document may contain - charts, images, etc.
> 
> it's basically the open-source PDF.

I think it is the other way round. PDF is a proprietary encapsulation of PS with hyperlinks and data compression (and perhaps a few other things) added....

-- 
Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at
Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com

Walter wrote:
> I frankly don't understand why anyone uses ps to publish on the web. What's the matter with html? Can't get the font just so? Who cares? PS is a nuisance, and the viewer is what, 20 megabytes? Argh.

Postscript is like an API for printing under UNIX and Mac-OS. All professional printers and type setting machines understand postscript natively. PDF essentialy is a cut down postscript language with only a few new added features. Postscript nowadays is so widespread, that I fear it will be still around when you and I are not.

The real nuisance are DOC files. But that would open up new bag of fleas.

Conclusion: Get a postscript viewer (adobe distiller/ghostscript).
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"Olaf Rogalsky" <olaf.rogalsky@theorie1.physik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote in message news:3EA92405.D919DF4@theorie1.physik.uni-erlangen.de...
> Postscript is like an API for printing under UNIX and Mac-OS. All professional printers and type setting machines understand postscript natively. PDF essentialy is a cut down postscript language with only a few new added features. Postscript nowadays is so widespread, that I fear it will be still around when you and I are not.
>
> The real nuisance are DOC files. But that would open up new bag of fleas.
>
> Conclusion: Get a postscript viewer (adobe distiller/ghostscript).

I have a viewer now. But if ps is so common, why can't browsers display it? (My HP printer can't do ps either.)

PostScript is a full-blown programming language; it's primary function is as a page description language.  It's no more of an API than C.

PDF and PostScript share a lot of common features such as the basic imaging model; this makes it "easy" to move between the two.  But PDF does not have programming language features such as loops; the result is a simplier (although perhaps not as efficient) description of a printed page.

These days I would say that PDF is *MUCH* more widespread than raw PS files; the Adobe Acrobat Reader is the way to go (and it even works as a "plug in" in IE).

   Dan


"Olaf Rogalsky" <olaf.rogalsky@theorie1.physik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote in message news:3EA92405.D919DF4@theorie1.physik.uni-erlangen.de...
> Walter wrote:
> > I frankly don't understand why anyone uses ps to publish on the web.
What's
> > the matter with html? Can't get the font just so? Who cares? PS is a nuisance, and the viewer is what, 20 megabytes? Argh.
>
> Postscript is like an API for printing under UNIX and Mac-OS. All professional printers and type setting machines understand postscript natively. PDF essentialy is a cut down postscript language with only a few new added features. Postscript nowadays is so widespread, that I fear it will be still around when you and I are not.
>
> The real nuisance are DOC files. But that would open up new bag of fleas.
>
> Conclusion: Get a postscript viewer (adobe distiller/ghostscript).
> -- 
> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ I Dr. Olaf Rogalsky                         Institut f. Theo. Physik I I I Tel.: 09131 8528440                       Univ. Erlangen-Nuernberg   I I Fax.: 09131 8528444                       Staudtstrasse 7 B3         I I rogalsky@theorie1.physik.uni-erlangen.de  D-91058 Erlangen           I +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

Both the PostScript language and the PDF format are document by Adobe; I don't think either one could be classified as "open source", but "proprietrary" seems a bit of a strong word too given the extensive documentation available.

PostScript is a pain as an archival format because it requires a fair amount of effort to process; PDF was specifically designed for storing documents electronically, it is much simplier (few programming language constructs) and as a result is better suited this purpose.

   Dan

"Helmut Leitner" <leitner@hls.via.at> wrote in message news:3EA9046A.32A6FECB@hls.via.at...
>
>
> Charles Banas wrote:
> > but it's nice because it not only acts as an editable semi-permanent document, but it also encapsulates everything that a document may
contain -
> > charts, images, etc.
> >
> > it's basically the open-source PDF.
>
> I think it is the other way round. PDF is a proprietary encapsulation of
PS with
> hyperlinks and data compression (and perhaps a few other things) added....
>
> -- 
> Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at
> Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com

On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:17:22 -0700, Walter <walter@digitalmars.com> wrote:

> If you could email me those two files, I'd appreciate it. I don't have the
> gcc source. Anyhow, despite having the C++ compiler running on linux, there
> is many months of work with all those compatibility issues. Reworking the
> way inheritance works is particularly horrible.
>
>
the GCC source is available at http://gcc.gnu.org for download at any time. it's actually not that big.

i'll send you the files ASAP, though.

-- 
Charles "grey wolf" Banas

On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:10:02 -0400, J. Daniel Smith <J_Daniel_Smith@HoTMaiL.com> wrote:

> Both the PostScript language and the PDF format are document by Adobe; I
> don't think either one could be classified as "open source", but
> "proprietrary" seems a bit of a strong word too given the extensive
> documentation available.
>
> PostScript is a pain as an archival format because it requires a fair amount
> of effort to process; PDF was specifically designed for storing documents
> electronically, it is much simplier (few programming language constructs)
> and as a result is better suited this purpose.
>
> Dan
>
> "Helmut Leitner" <leitner@hls.via.at> wrote in message
> news:3EA9046A.32A6FECB@hls.via.at...
>>
>>
>> Charles Banas wrote:
>> > but it's nice because it not only acts as an editable semi-permanent
>> > document, but it also encapsulates everything that a document may
> contain -
>> > charts, images, etc.
>> >
>> > it's basically the open-source PDF.
>>
>> I think it is the other way round. PDF is a proprietary encapsulation of
> PS with
>> hyperlinks and data compression (and perhaps a few other things) added....
>>
>> -- Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at
>> Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com
>
>
>
i stand corrected


-- 
Charles "grey wolf" Banas

"Charles Banas" <greywolf@greyfade.net> wrote in message news:oprn7a4py08ctebf@news.digitalmars.com...
> the GCC source is available at http://gcc.gnu.org for download at any
time.
>  it's actually not that big.

It's 26Mb compressed!

> i'll send you the files ASAP, though.

Thanks!