July 04, 2003 Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrew Edwards | In article <be3pk6$22d6$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Andrew Edwards says... > >1) What's your name? Bill Cox >2) What's your programming experience? Graduated in '86, been working ever since. Had some experience before. >3) What's your D knowledge? Beginner >4) What programming language are you most familiar with? C, C++, Java, assembly, Lisp, Scheme, Fortran, Basic, some others >5) What's your main operating system? Unix (mostly Linux) and Windows. >6) Which type of application you want to develop in D? It looks like the next language I switch to will be of the extendable variety where new syntax and symantics can be added. >7) Top Three Wishes for D? My needs are too specific to make it into D (or other non-extendable langauges), which is why I need an extendable language. However, three of the most important extensions for me are: 1) Dynamic class extension 2) Better support for relationships between classes, much like what can be found in relational databases 3) Sather-like code reuse (the "include" construct) Bill |
July 04, 2003 Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Luna Kid | >> 7) Top Three Wishes for D?
1.- Serilization of objects
2.- True Properties, like Delphi
3.- Better Garbage Colection
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July 05, 2003 OT - Dynamic class extension was Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Bill Cox | In article <be4lqs$1r4$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Bill Cox says... >which is why I need an extendable language. However, three of the most important extensions for me are: > >1) Dynamic class extension how about Dynace http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dynace/ |
July 06, 2003 Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrew Edwards | "Andrew Edwards" <edwardsac@spamfreeusa.com> escreveu na mensagem news:be3pk6$22d6$1@digitaldaemon.com... > 1) What's your name? Daniel Yukio Yokomiso > 2) What's your programming experience? 10 years, 5 professional. > 3) What's your D knowledge? That's hard to answer, I would say intermediate. > 4) What programming language are you most familiar with? Probably Java. > 5) What's your main operating system? win2k > 6) Which type of application you want to develop in D? Libraries and development tools (IDEs, code repositories, etc.) > 7) Top Three Wishes for D? More powerful template syntax ;) Stable, working compiler (with all features) More libraries --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.495 / Virus Database: 294 - Release Date: 30/6/2003 |
July 06, 2003 Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrew Edwards | Andrew Edwards wrote: > 1) What's your name? Jason Mills > 2) What's your programming experience? 5+ years > 3) What's your D knowledge? Beginner (haven't done much D programming, mostly just following its developments) > 4) What programming language are you most familiar with? C, C++, Java, Perl > 5) What's your main operating system? 30% Linux, 70% Windows 2000 > 6) Which type of application you want to develop in D? image processing/robotics GUI's > 7) Top Three Wishes for D? In summary, what ever is necessary to use D at work, replacing C++. This means: - A good, complete GUI library (must run on Windows and be at least as complete as MFC). - Tools (visual debuggers (IDE?)) and more libraries. - A stable compiler that completely implements the D spec. |
July 06, 2003 Re: OT - Dynamic class extension was Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Mark T | Mark T wrote:
> In article <be4lqs$1r4$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Bill Cox says...
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>>which is why I need an extendable language. However, three of the most
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> how about Dynace
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Then we would have an preprozessor again. Do we want something like that ?
Stephan
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July 08, 2003 Re: OT - Dynamic class extension was Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Stephan Wienczny | In article <be9q2e$1hiu$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stephan Wienczny says... > >Mark T wrote: >> In article <be4lqs$1r4$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Bill Cox says... >> >>>which is why I need an extendable language. However, three of the most important extensions for me are: >>> >>>1) Dynamic class extension >> >> >> how about Dynace >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dynace/ >> >> >Then we would have an preprozessor again. Do we want something like that ? It is actually more like a translator, like converting Eiffel to C like SmartEffiel. The OT is "off topic" it was meant as reply to Bill Cox for him to possibly check out this language. |
July 08, 2003 Re: OT - Dynamic class extension was Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Mark T | Mark T wrote:
> In article <be4lqs$1r4$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Bill Cox says...
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>>which is why I need an extendable language. However, three of the most
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dynace/
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Thanks for the link. I'm having some trouble getting good info on Dynace, but at first look, it seems to be a non-extendable language translator (like most C derived languages). The dynamic extensions are useful for me, but the other features would be missing.
Bill
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July 08, 2003 Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrew Edwards | > 1) What's your name? Nic Tiger > 2) What's your programming experience? 14 years > 3) What's your D knowledge? Intermediate (now, after ICFP) > 4) What programming language are you most familiar with? C/C++, Pascal/Delphi, ASM, D, Perl > 5) What's your main operating system? 60% - DOS (MS DOS 7.10, PTSDOS-32) 30% - Win2000 10% - Linux (Mandrake 9) > 6) Which type of application you want to develop in D? As usual, ground based flight data processing systems. Realtime modelling environment for missile guidance systems. Maybe 3D games also. > 7) Top Three Wishes for D? 1. Overloading of [] or some other way to create full-featured arrays on top of dynamic arrays. 2. DOSX support 3. Beat all other languages and become language #1 |
July 09, 2003 Re: D User Poll | ||||
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Posted in reply to Andrew Edwards | "Andrew Edwards" <edwardsac@spamfreeusa.com> wrote in message news:be3pk6$22d6$1@digitaldaemon.com... > 1) What's your name? Matthew Wilson (or "The Dr" if you're a friend, or "Bigboy" if you're a real-close friend ...) > > 2) What's your programming experience? Lots - C/C++/C#/D/Java/Make/Perl/Python > > 3) What's your D knowledge? > > Beginner > > Intermediate Keep getting distracted with other things to be advanced. I've created some small libraries at http://synsoft.org/d.html and will be creating a D version of ATL before the end of the year. > > Advanced > > 4) What programming language are you most familiar with? C++ > > 5) What's your main operating system? Win32, with Linux sprinkled in when I get mouse-weary. ("set -o vi" ;) > > 6) Which type of application you want to develop in D? Libraries. I'm a library kinda-guy. (Am also the author of STLSoft - http://stlsoft.org/) > > 7) Top Three Wishes for D? > 1. That it gets real. I don't mean this in a pejorative sense; I mean that it moves out of its current hobbyist/research state, and there are some real, and impressive, applications out there that are written in it. For my part, I've been trying to put out the message, and have written a number of articles that are due to be published in the coming months (WDN, CUJ, etc.) that feature D. 2. That it does not suffer from heritage issues as C++ has from C and, MUCH more importantly, that it does not get killed by having inadequate or bloated libraries (in the way that Java and .NET - already! - have). Also, I want to be able to create DLLs & executables in D that are no bigger than the ones I can create in C/C++, and are (nearly) as fast. 3. That I can do at least as much useful template stuff in D as I can in C++, without having to fight with arcane syntax, and without resorting to mind expanding (or numbing, depending on your POV) Template Meta-Programming tricks |
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